this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2023
80 points (91.7% liked)
SneerClub
983 readers
10 users here now
Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It is sad both, our lack of good high quality LW-space sneers so we are falling back on sneering at Musk-space sneers, and the fact that for all her proto-white nationalist white exceptional racism she cannot even pick the common LW type ones, makes me wonder if she just has never heard of HBD yet, or didn't get it. Also makes me wonder if she is aware of the white nationalist trick people like Jared Taylor like to pull. Talks a lot about white culture, and only scarcely mention that he thinks white culture is a product of genetics. I also will not call her a nazi, as I think the tragic time of the nazis is over, and we are now in the farce era of the neo-nazis. ;). (Also I can be a bit pedantic and not sure this is enough yet, but sadly I often am proven wrong about these kinds of things).
Reminds me of how Musk has read/heard about some of the AGI LW stuff but just simply doesn't seem to get the complex parts of it, so he starts to say making AGI not kill humanity is easy just program it to have soft hands and not kill everybody.
I remember in the early days of the "culture wars" as far as political agendas going, hearing about "white/ethno-european pride," and being naively curious, I actually tried to engage these people on the topics of European culture and history, and found exactly zero engagement on these topics. Just politics abusing people's confusion of heritage with people's internal shame and lack of identity.
The paradox I've always found is that the more secure in your identity and heritage you are, the more happy you are to share, grow, and widen that. Maybe a hot take, but growing up in the south, alot of people there hide their personal internal shame and confusion in aggression and identity politics.
There was the white nationalist guy who when asked about which white culture should be saved just said 'metallica' which always struck me as typical.
Could you expand your acronyms for my laziness? Google says agi is adjusted gross income.
Artificial General Intelligence
HBD LW ?
IDK
HBD - Human BioDiversity, which I believe is a spin on scientific racism/evolutionary psychology.
LW - LessWrong, congregating site of the Rationalists
oh I've found many fine sneers right there on LW, but I think this one is good enough for sheer prominence.
i would not assume Grimes was aware of things or had what could meaningfully be called political opinions
Yeah, I didn't mean it as a bad sneer, I meant it more like how incredibly bad Musk/Grimes etc are at the basics of all this. LW stuff needs you to read and dig, and they just go 'well im a socialist, I just don't believe workers should have any power'. (does explain why the lowest common denom cryptocoin scammers target musk fans).