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whatever American consumers say about the state of the economy, they are spending as if their finances are in pretty good shape. Most recently, holiday sales appear to have been quite good.

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Americans aren’t acting as if they’re terrified about crime. As I’ve written before, major downtowns have seen weekend foot traffic — roughly speaking, the number of people visiting the city for fun rather than work — recover to prepandemic levels, which isn’t what you’d expect if Americans were fleeing violent urban hellscapes.

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[–] TechNerdWizard42 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Being ignorant of your surroundings and financial status does not mean everything is ok. This is literally the head in sand approach. A toddler should understand this.

[–] Juujian 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right on. Glad to know Krugman and his friends in NY are ok. But him pointing at the numbers and saying "I'm right" really just comes across as ignorant. If you're on minimum wage and you can't escape it, then the times are worse than ever. His PhD students are probably in that income range and earn as much as they did 10 years ago, but he got his and probably doesn't even know hardship...

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes, there are people for whom it's awful. Always has been. But the big question is "did it improve for most people?" — and it seems to have.

[–] K1nsey6 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It has not. They can't gaslight us into prosperity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They'll keep trying, and OP will keep helping.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This last year people have seen a cost of living jump across the board because of "inflation".

Have you noticed how many online services offer payment plans on things as cheap as $10? To me that doesn't sound like everything is ok. To me that looks more like people trying to pretend like it's ok while barely getting by.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Except that's not what's going on. People are just saying "it's bad" even though the evidence is that it's not.

[–] TechNerdWizard42 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The evidence clearly shows Americans have maxed out their cards and are riding debt while buying only essentials. That's not good. That's ignorance of impending doom.

It's also NOT good for anyone who hasn't got a new job in the past couple years. If everything around you is 20% more expensive and you've received a 3% raise, things are very bad for you.

It is very good currently for those with 401ks and can leverage, use, or sell the gains they are getting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Similar to people thinking crime is way up and rising when it’s way lower than it’s been and decreasing.