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[US] Texas AG Threatens Seattle Hospital With Jail Unless It Provides Trans Patient Data (www.erininthemorning.com)
submitted 11 months ago by jennwiththesea to c/news
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"Seattle responded to the request by filing a lawsuit in Travis County, stating they cannot comply because Texas has no jurisdiction in Washington State, and no care was provided by the hospital in Texas. They also point out that the Dormant Commerce Clause, protected by the United States Constitution, “protects the right to interstate travel, including to obtain healthcare services.” By targeting out-of-state hospitals for enforcement of laws that only apply within the jurisdiction of Texas, they “discriminate against healthcare based on an interstate element,” violating constitutional protections, according to the legal filing. Lastly, Seattle Children’s Hospital cannot comply due to a shield law passed by Washington State. This law bars the hospital from providing any patient data and from responding to subpoenas pursuant to “protected healthcare services” obtained within the jurisdiction of Washington. Protected healthcare services include abortion, reproductive care, and gender-affirming care."

"This case promises to be extraordinarily complex. Seattle Children’s Hospital is challenging the jurisdiction of the demands directly in a Texas state court. Regardless of what the local court decides, the claims are likely to go to the Texas Supreme Court. Given that the claims also have a time limit on them and that appeals in Texas automatically favor the attorney general due to an automatic lifting of stays in the state, Seattle Children’s Hospital workers and providers for trans patients from Texas could be under legal jeopardy. Ultimately, the case presents questions of conflicting state laws and regulation of conduct across state lines, and the implications of those laws could be dire for abortion and trans care nationwide."

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[–] JokeDeity 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)

There's way more people on the left than on the right, the only way to save this country at this point is for some of these people to start disappearing, or another full on civil war. The bullshit has to end, I'm tired of every day being more hate fueled evil from these fucking troglodytes.

[–] TechyDad 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The big problem with a Second Civil War is that it won't be North vs South. It wouldn't even be Red States vs Blue States. It would be Red Counties vs Blue Counties.

I live in NY - a deep blue state. I even live in a blue area of the state. If I drive less than 30 minutes from my house, though, I'd end up in an area so red that I might as well be in the deep south.

If there was an active Civil War, people in these red counties would travel to the blue counties to launch attacks (and vice versa). There would be no real "front line." The entire country would be a front line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean maybe. I have a hard time envisioning what a modern U.S. civil war would look like. What would be the organizations coordinating each side, and what would the chain of command look like? Who would be funding each side, and what would the supply chains look like? What would the actual U.S. military, pentagon, and DoD do?

Even the most red counties have something like 20% blue voters. I imagine voter demographics were comparable during the first Civil War, yet state governments still federated. Confederate states weren't able to get many volunteers, so they brutally enforced conscription.

[–] TechyDad 2 points 11 months ago

My best guess is that it would be less open warfare and more terrorist attacks. For example, suppose NYC has its annual Pride Parade. Some right-wingers would travel in from a red county and "join" the parade. At a certain point, they'd set off some incendiary device to disrupt the proceedings before retreating back to MAGA-land.

These attacks wouldn't need a lot of ammunition or all that much coordination (when compared with a military). MAGA sheriffs could abuse their authority to protect MAGA terrorists from being arrested. (Leaking information to them. "Arresting" them first and refusing to turn them over to state/federal officials. Etc.)

With enough of these attacks, you could have a "war" without any military on either side.

[–] elbarto777 6 points 11 months ago

Another full on civil war? I was with you until this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't thing this is true. If you label Democrat voters as "left" and Republican voters as "right," then there is usually only around a 5% difference in the popular vote during presidential elections.

If you label "progressives" as "left," and MAGA Republicans as "right," I think the right actually has a big numbers advantage, judging by how mainstream it seems to be (FOX News vs MSNBC?). I don't watch MSNBC, so I'm not actually sure if it's really progressive, but what I've seen from FOX is pretty far right.

[–] paddirn 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Going by the media probably isn't a good barometer either of how the country leans, as most/all media outlets are owned by corporations and conservative-leaning investment-class folks who have no interest in left-leaning content. Even something like MSNBC will only go so far to the left, more like center-left and corporate-friendly.

I suspect most people are probably somewhere in the middle or left-leaning, not in total agreement with either party, but generally supportive of policies typically pushed by Democrats that help the broadest numbers of people, many are probably just politically agnostic and don't care to even think about politics that much. However, Democrats suck at messaging and at actually getting their policies enacted, either through ineptitude, naivete, or by design, and the demographic groups they go after are also the least dependable when it comes to voting. So we're left with Republicans usually getting their stuff pushed through because they have no shame and are willing to do questionable things in the pursuit of power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

IDK. Most people I personally know are right-leaning (unfortunately). Either for religious reasons, bigotry, or from drinking the "free-market" kool-aid. They definitely have a different outlook on things. They highly value the nuclear family, hierarchies, retribution, people getting what they "deserve," etc. They think these things are what's best for everybody. A lot of these people don't really follow politics closely, they just think "killing babies" is evil (meaning abortion), the Democrats let crime run rampant, taxes hinder progress and the economy, men kissing is gross and unnatural, the gays, media, and trans' are grooming children, etc.