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[–] yesman 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If only the libertarians knew their dreamland already existed

[–] NewNewAccount 7 points 10 months ago

They’re 50 years too late though.

[–] captainlezbian 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s such a weird situation because I do agree with the criticism of the age of consent being different for gay acts vs straight ones, but also 15’s a bit young there and they think it’s too high. Yikes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

16 is pretty normal in both the US and Europe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That depends on the state. The larger states tend to trend towards older.

California, ~39 million. 18 Texas, ~30 million. 17 Florida, ~23 million. 18 NY, ~20 million. 18

Pennsylvania at about 13 million is the first in population to see 16...

over 1/3rd of the country is represented in the top 4 states there... and all would say that 16 is not normal...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

According to wikipedia 31 states in the US put age of consent at 16.

And in Europe Wikipedia says "only four countries, Cyprus (17), the Republic of Ireland (17), Turkey (18), and the Vatican City (18), set an age of consent higher than 16.". Which would account for more than 600 million people.

From a western point of view it's pretty normal. You'll still get weird look if you're 20+ and dating a 16 year old, but that's besides the point we're arguing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand... I'm making the point that it's not "that" normal for US. I don't know about the EU in this context as I never looked.

those 31 states account for less than 45% of the USA...

the numbers come out to something like this...

16: 44.9%
17: 24.5%
18: 30.6%

The number is certainly much closer to 17 years old than 16 as the "normal" here.

[–] captainlezbian 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah I understand that and I’m ok with it (though I prefer 18 with Romeo and Juliet laws), but 15 feels like they inched too far

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That gives a whole new meaning to the expression 🤢 Fr*nch "people" 🤮

[–] Sylvartas 9 points 10 months ago

Thanks for lumping me and my contemporaries with a small subset of barely famous old weirdos who mostly died before we were even born, I guess