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Almost all my life I've absolutely despised children. Pretty much from the moment I stopped being a child I've hated being around children.

It doesn't even matter what the child is doing. Whether they're laughing and having fun or screaming and throwing a tantrum. The sound of a child being loud activates an almost primal rage that I can barely contain.

I've had to leave social gatherings/restaurants/grocery stores all because if I'd stayed I'd have made a complete ass of myself by screaming at a child just for existing.

It's even worse with infants which makes me feel horrible because I know they can't help it. I know the kids don't know any better and it's our job as adults to get them through childhood, but my blood boils when they get loud or demand attention.

Has anyone else dealt with something like this? Is there anything I can do to stop from getting so angry?

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[–] givesomefucks 98 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The sound of a child being loud activates an almost primal rage that I can barely contain.

Yeah, that's actually a thing for some people to various degrees.

It's called misophonia

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24460-misophonia

I had it for high pitched sounds as well, went on Beta Blockers for migraines and it fixed this as well.

The noises are triggering your adrenal response and your body is screaming at you that the noise has to stop and it doesn't matter what it takes. Beta blockers block adrenaline, so now noises that used to set me on edge are just normal noises to me.

I think one of the current hypothesis is that it might be close to a sound that would attract predators, but sometimes wires get crossed and you have the reaction to a random noise.

Most commonly it's people hating the sound of others chewing.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I was unfamiliar with misophonia so I went looking into it. I know it is a poorly studied issue, but I wasn't able to find any peer reviewed research where children's noises in general were used or reported as a trigger. I found lots of discussion forums, but that is anecdotal.

The reason I went digging is because the op describes all children's noises, happy, sad, whatever, whereas what I read in the literature was very specific noises were reported as triggers. E.g, lip smacking, chewing, pen clicking, etc. In one study, they even used videos of children and dogs playing to help participants calm down and establish a baseline. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0227118

While I'm admittedly ignorant, it seems OP may have a more general aversion to children than I would expect of misophonia given what I've read from medical sources.

I only mention this as a counter suggestion to help op avoid self diagnosing and maybe going down the wrong track.

I think counseling is warranted to help sort it out.

[–] givesomefucks 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not specifically kids.

But kids make lots of really high pitched noises, and those can be a trigger.

Happy, sad, for no reason at all.

Kids make a lot of noise, and it's almost all high pitch

[–] Chobbes 10 points 11 months ago

I have misophonia and kids are definitely a big trigger in a lot of ways… Screaming, crying, chewing, coughing. It’s anecdotal, but yeah the high pitch sounds don’t play nice with my brain. Misophonia suuuuuuuuuucks.

I also don’t particularly like kids, but that’s not really about the sound. Just not my cup of tea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I'll have to look into this. People chewing normally don't bother me, but if someone is sitting close and chews with their mouth open... yeah, instant rage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ll have to look into this again thanks, but Just a cautionary note that it can be hard to get off of beta blockers iirc

[–] givesomefucks 2 points 11 months ago

While true, it's not that they're addictive or dangerous or anything.

It's just a long half life so they stay in your system for days when taken as prescribed.

So if you take your doses regularly, your body gets used to never having adrenaline.

Take a week off, and your body is suddenly dealing with adrenaline again while having like zero tolerance for it.

So if you're on it for cardiac reasons, stopping abruptly can very likely lead to a heart attack.

So (like most meds) if you're going off them you need to titrate slowly so your body adjusts. But it's not like Benzos where it causes withdrawals or anything.

If someone takes them "as needed" then they can just stop taking them whenever without cause for concern. Because their body is still used to occasional adrenaline.

Obviously consult your doctor though, I just took a few classes on this stuff over a decade ago