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Megyn Kelly went viral when she declared Santa Claus “just is white,” but a decade later the idea of what St. Nick can look like has only expanded.

Aisha Harris had no idea of the uproar she would create when she recommended the Christmas Penguin.

Ten years ago, the writer and journalist published a lighthearted viral essay titled “Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore,” in which she questioned the ubiquity of white Santa imagery.

“America is less and less white, but a melanin-deficient Santa remains the default in commercials, mall casting calls, and movies,” Harris wrote. “Isn’t it time that our image of Santa better serve all the children he delights each Christmas?” In fact, she suggests, a Christmas Penguin can represent the holiday instead of a person.

The backlash was swift, especially after anchor Megyn Kelly responded to the piece on her Fox News show “The Kelly File.” “This is so ridiculous, yet another person claiming it’s racist to have a white Santa,” Kelly said. “And by the way, for all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white.”

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That kind of nonsense is to be expected from the far right. But TBF you'll also sometimes see people on the left describe Israel as a white colonial state and Israelis as white, especially now during the whole Gaza thing, despite a clear majority of Israelis having (relatively recent) middle-eastern roots. Eg. Ben-Gvir, the controversial Israeli Minister of National Security and far right nationalist, has Iraqi and Kurdish ancestry.

[–] PopOfAfrica 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Modern day Israelis are not historical Israelites. They looked more like Palestinians do today.

Bibi Netanyahu is paler than my white ass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. Netenyahu is Ashkenazi. Ignoring the fact that Ashkenazi Jews invariably and historically weren't seen as white, they're a minority in Israel and have been for a while now.

  2. Most Israelis have middle-eastern or north african ancestry. Wikipedia:

Mizrahi Jews ... alternatively referred to as Oriental Jews ... are a grouping of Jewish communities comprising those who remained in the Land of Israel and those who existed in diaspora throughout and around the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) from biblical times into the modern era. ... As of 2005, 61% of Israeli Jews were of full or partial Mizrahi/Sephardi ancestry

  1. There's plenty of evidence to suggest Jews and Palestinians are genetically closely related. Pubmed:

... a study comparing 20 microsatellite markers in Israeli Jewish, Palestinian, and Druze populations demonstrated the proximity of these two non-Jewish populations to Ashkenazi and Iraqi Jews

  1. Back when Israel was founded, a majority of Israelis were Ashkenazi. That hasn't been true for a long time. Many (if not most) modern day Israelis look very similar to modern day Palestinians. It's one of the reasons the Israeli security services traditionally found it easy to infiltrate Palestinian organisations:

“In the Zionist movement in those years — we’re talking about pre-1948 — almost everyone is European or Eastern European. Nine out of every 10 Jews were of European descent." ... "The people who set up the Arab Section ... understand that ethnic impersonation is impossible. ... But the Jews in Palestine offered this incredible opportunity. Jews had people who could pass for anything you want: Polish, German, Arab" ... “We still come to Israel with these very European stories to understand its formation, ... but they don’t explain Israel in 2019. You won’t get very far with these old stories because half of Jews come from the Islamic world.”