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We get it. They died. It's tragic but this coverage is unnecessary and gratuitous.
It's probably sad for the people who are connected, but it's not really all that tragic. Some people died doing something extremely risky.
@DerisionConsulting "it's not really all that tragic"
It's actually the classical definition of tragedy - an awful result that comes from the protagonist's hubris
@sendingmath @WytchStar
Right?! There's innumerable dead adrenaline junkies maimed and killed all the time doing something that has a high mortality rate, by design!
Everyone's just on pins and needles about this particular one because he's among the global oppressor class.
But just like so many self-serving cultural views our oligarchs have pushed on us, a peasant with a death wish is crazy, a wealthy person with a death wish is eccentric.
I think it's the presumption of godhood that so many of these alarmingly wealthy individuals have that makes stories like these so morbidly fascinating.
I can feel badly for them, each in their own way... but some small black-hearted part of me is just happy that for once, the asshole making the poor decisions suffered for them.
there was another billionaire who died at a crash at a race track recently. that one is more tragic to me because theres a lot more people who that could happen to, poor people to billionaires love racing. these people died trying to feed their own ego at the cheapest cost. i get why some people might try and stretch to do things on a vacation or whatever if theyll likely never get to do it again. these people couldve paid james cameron to take them down, instead they chose stockton rush.
I find the 19yo kid’s death tragic. He was probably coerced into going. Everyone else, I quite agree with you.
I read somewhere that his dad (the second richest man on the sub, pakistani oligarch family member) pushed him to go because "it's fathers day, we have to".
It's tragic that the 19 year old died, and I hope that his family can eventually cope with the fact that he got coerced into death by his own dad.
It has since been reported that Suleman Dawood was actually very excited about going on the sub, and had been previously disappointed when he couldn't go the first time the dive was scheduled because he was only 17, so his mother was going to go instead. That dive was cancelled, he turned 18, and you know the rest.
Oh my goddamn give it a fucking break already. You can say the same about any other son who spent time with his dad when he probably didn't want to. The fact that they were rich doesn't make it evil for a father to want to spend time with his son. It's not like he knew they were going to die; he didn't intentionally drag his son along to his death.
Goddamn, I've never been more disgusted with the "good guys." Coerced into death, are you fucking serious? Can we just investigate and analyze this empirically without making up reasons to hate the people involved? They're dead, dude. Let it be.
Honestly, at 19, he's legally an adult in most (all?) countries. If he was 5 or 10 I'd agree with you 100%. I'm sure his parents/upbringing/whatever shaped his decision-making, but dude was old enough to make his own decisions.
the sub's builder and promoter set himself up for this.
i'm not celebrating any of this. people died.
we have to recognize the guy behind this was a billionaire moron. he was obsessed with innovation over safety.
...Then why are you talking to me? I'm referring to the people who are blatantly and shamelessly celebrating this. If you are not doing that, then you're not one of the people I'm talking about; my comment wasn't about you.
I know he fucked up, he fucked up in just about every way you can fuck up, and he did it knowingly, willingly even. I fully support the investigation and exposure of every single thing that went wrong and why; that is how we learn from these things. We can do that while still showing basic decency and respect for the dead.
we're all learning more and more about noted shithead, Stockton Rush.
Mr. Rush is behind the whole debacle. I am concerned that he duped others and took their money, and people died.
Dude is almost 100% responsible for the lives lost. The more we learn about all this the clearer it is that he took enormous risks and knew it but didn't care. I'm shocked this didn't happen earlier tbh.
And what part of this particular piece of journalism do you feel assists us in that endeavor?
nothing and everything. the whole story is ghoulish and macabre. that isn't the fault of journalism.
The facts aren't inherently ghoulish. The media attention to every macabre detail and society's hunger for such trivialities is.
Nothing in this story or series of details helps to further the case of negligence. It serves only to feed the rage and satiate morbid curiosity.
Well said. Speaking ill of the dead says more about the speaker than the departed. It's disgusting, and it's extremely disappointing how many find it acceptable to say terrible things about someone just because they were rich.
Death is the equalizer. No matter who are in life, we all die the same. Those rich people didn't get to take their money with them, they're just dead. It's like gloating to someone you just beat in a race. It's over, and they lost. Show some goddamn respect.
the guy, Stockton Rush, was himself a ghoul.
I mean, I can't really tell you why, but I'm fascinated by this incident, so I'm interested in the stories that come out with new information.
probably because the ceo is an arrogant idiot
*was