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Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hope Canada has the political will to make this an actual reality.

I don't think these kill all internal combustion engine by a set date policies are going to really work out. We're still in the "incentivize people stage" of switching not the "kill it off internal combustion engine completely stage". Most people don't buy new cars cuz they're just too expensive and there aren't a lot of used EV's that are affordable out there currently.

And before anyone says I don't get the whole thing. I own an EV, I think there's quite a long way to actually convince people to get them as a replacement.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're talking about 11 years in the future, and there's a ramp up included in the legislation. That's a long time, 11 years ago Tesla started selling the Model S, basically kicking off the current EV industry.

[–] Frozengyro 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. A country who does this will be like Cuba is with all the old vehicles, and people doing everything they can to maintain them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's a good thing in many ways. Environmentally a huge chunk of the problem lies in the manufacturing of new cars, and it's even worse with electric ones. Current ICE should be kept running for decades, not replaced at all costs.

Now of course you then get into spikier debates when you look at who actually bears the cost of the transition. When poor people with street parking end up subsidizing rich people's electric cars (as is currently the case where I live), we have a problem IMO. Not a new one; people who don't drive have been getting shafted for decades. But now it's getting worse!

[–] AA5B 4 points 1 year ago

Policies like this are not to help the consumer but to push the manufacturers. A typical major redesign is every 5-6 years so this gives them about 2 generations for each model. It gives them some time to ramp up but no more excuses. Most importantly, if that’s all they’re allowed to sell then they need to figure out how to make them sellable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that really depends where you are. If you're in the US, sure. The US is far behind on infrastructure. If you're in Europe, it's much more viable. They have a lot more infrastructure (including much better public transportation) and EVs are actually viable as a replacement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's fine for 90% of what people do with cars in the US. People in the US seem to like roadtrips a lot more than Europeans, though, and that's where infrastructure needs to improve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Right. You can easily take a long roadtrip in an EV in Europe. Not so much in the US. At least not yet.