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[–] mr_tyler_durden 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I think this is actually a great thing for Mastodon. The truth is the majority of people are just never going to sign up for a Mastodon server as they stand today. The majority of people want algorithmic feeds run by a central entity. I know the people here don’t want that, but that’s what the majority of people do want. Will I use Threads? No but if this breathes more life into Mastodon and exposes more people to the concept then that is a good thing. Being able to use a client of your choice to interact with people on something like Threads is also a very good thing. The alternative is a completely closed social network like Twitter.

I know, I know “embrace, extend, extinguish”, but literally this is the best that we can hope for unfortunately. The alternative is everyone goes and uses a closed system.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google the history of xmpp. This is exactly the same.

It's not a good thing.

[–] mr_tyler_durden 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So we can let Mastodon die on the vine or chance it dying? Ok, I know my choice.

It’s not like the majority of people are already on open protocols. I’m sure Threads dwarfs Masrodon usage just as Twitter and possibly even BlueSky.

IF Mastodon was dominate I might have a different view but it’s not. If Threads federates then there is an opportunity to push people to other clients which make switching to a Mastodon/ActivityPub server much easier. That’s literally only upside. It’s not like the people on Mastodon now are going to leave it for Threads.

[–] Sanyanov 3 points 11 months ago

They might end up being forced to, should Threads decide to revert.

Mastodon users will inevitably hook up on Threads communities instead of fostering their own, and at that point being left to their own devices would be a catastrophe.

And yes, this is exactly what happened to xmpp.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is the obsession with numbers? Centralization mentality is the problem. The idea that unless 5 Billion people are on a network will it be “successful” denies the joys of effective and sustainable networks. I really honestly wouldn’t want to see a fediverse server with more than 100K daily active users. I would rather have 10 instances of 10K active users.

Meta and those billionaire centrists can go fuck themselves.

[–] InvaderDJ 3 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't call it an obsession, but there does need to be a critical mass of users before a social networks become useful.

[–] MataVatnik 5 points 11 months ago

I simply don't trust meta, they have incredibly bad precedent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure. Might be a great thing, but Facebook might equally be the equivalent of a whale landing in a small pond, killing everything else in the process.