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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You know these are volunteers that work for free, right?

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t like the insinuation that because gnome devs are volunteers they are somehow beyond criticism

You can volunteer on a project and still do a bad job, or need corrective action, or maybe even a little feedback. That’s not a bad thing. Nobody can make the right decision 100% of the time, and you need an outside perspective to see that.

One thing where you should draw the line is when that criticism starts to become abusive, but that’s something nobody should have to put up with, not just volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Correct, but I'm seeing a lot of abusive criticism in this thread, where we bash the devs rather than the code. That's where I draw the line.

Also, when criticizing work, it should be kept constructive rather than just hurling generic statements and insults. A well formulated thought is more likely to change things than a toxic, meaningless rage-induced rant.

[–] cbarrick 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

These are volunteers that work for free, right?

Some are working for free, sure. But mainly GNOME is developed by Red Hat and Canonical, afaict.

Florian Müllner is a Red Hat employee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, however most GNOME developers are not RedHat / Canonical employees.

Even those that do work for those companies should be treated with dignity. GNOME is free of charge, and no one is obligated to use GNOME.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lol, how does this change the fact their work stinks? Maybe if they didn't suck at designing the hate would stop? Nah, guilt trip the users instead, that'll fix it. Free crap is still crap, and pointing it out isn't a sin. If the devs can't deal with that, maybe they should go home and cry about it instead of further shitting up the code.

Devs don't owe users anything? Guess what, users don't owe devs shit either. If they don't like criticism, tough tittys, cause shit code will be criticized, which is why Gnome is still considered a joke.