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Nope.
You aren't wrong that there are outlier markets, where iPhone doesn't have the same market dominance. Or for unrelated reasons don't have the lock on messaging that Apple has in the US. You're confusing the outliers for the core group.
Is kind of funny you even mentioned WhatsApp. Do you understand how WhatsApp got to where it is? It wasn't by being the best or most competitive. It took root in a lot of European countries where smartphone adoption was much slower and later. Ultimately it's almost the same issues as iMessage. Just for Europe. Literally the EU is trying to legislate to force them to be interoperable and open just like Apple and iMessage. Even suggesting it is kind of tone deaf.
But here's a thought experiment to leave you with. Why can't IM be like email? Why shouldn't it be like email? Why should we leave these services at the whim and total control of wealthy, oligarchs and fascists?
You don't need to leave any thought experiments with me. I was making the point that only in the US the iPhone users are so brainwashed to stick to iMessage at all costs.
Btw, your explanation makes no sense because the first iPhones had no iMessage. iMessage only launched in 2011, meaning they had years to use something cross platform and then migrate away.
Yes but you tried to hand wave it away because only European users are brainwashed to stick to WhatsApp at all cost. Neither is good. Both can and should be better. The existence of one does not exempt the other.
It makes plenty of sense if you understand the history. Apple for all their faults did get the first modern smart phone out. They had a lot of momentum from that. And with iMessage they parlayed that into lock in.
I'm not advocating in favor of WhatsApp specifically, I'm advocating for cross platform messaging in general. iMessage is clearly among the worst options, given it's tied to one specific ecosystem.
On that at least we are 100% agreed.