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[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Disagree there. "Earned" implies "deserved." No one deserves to be that rich no matter how talented or popular.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Earned because she worked for it herself and overcame some huge barriers. Let's not forget what happened when she won her first Grammy. She stuck it out and built up her brand, her way. That takes incredible dedication and willpower. Now she is doing a 3 hour nonstop huge stadium show around the world while maintaining a high profile relationship with Travis Kelce. Yeah, she earned it.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nope. No one earns a billion dollars. I don't care what they overcame or how hard they worked. There are many people who overcame far worse things and worked much harder than she ever will and are barely making ends meet.

She did not earn it and she does not deserve it.

And if you don't think a significant portion of that billion isn't from investments, you don't know how the billionaire class works.

[–] TheActualDevil 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I would say that it's far more ethical than most billionaires. She didn't exploit workers, she performed and the populace gave her the money willingly. It's as ethical as one can get in the modern day where no person can participate in society without benefiting from exploitation. And as far as I can tell from some half-assed searching, her investments are in property, but not in the landlord sense. She owns rich people property. Mansions and jets and shit.

I my personal opinion, musicians seem like the most ethical rich people in terms of how they got their money. They get exploited by the music industry early on, but money primarily comes from ticket and merch sales, which people choose to spend their money on in support of the artist. People hate capitalism, but forget what it is they hate about it and just start hating the money, forgetting why it's bad- the exploitation.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 11 months ago

Maybe you're right and maybe she earned it all from her music career- although if being an investor isn't involved I would be amazed- but that still doesn't mean what the person I replied to said, that she earned it by overcoming hardship and working hard. I mean there are people who overcame cancer and scrub floors for a living. The person I replied to suggested her hardship came when Kanye interrupted her at the Grammys.

[–] Hominine -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Redefining words and then doubling down on them to bolster your opproprium? I believe that's what the kids call a classic reddit move.

It strikes close to the denial of reality you see from these right wing conspiracy enjoyers as well.👍

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hominine 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

“Earned” implies “deserved.”

Filed under "things to conflate".

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying you can earn money that is undeserved?

[–] Hominine 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying you're hardly the arbiter.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 11 months ago

Who is the arbiter of what a term implies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Definitely a debatable subject, but if there was a line of billionaire to start taking away "earned" income, she wouldn't be at the front. Plenty of others that are far less "worthy", depending on how the debate of worth goes.