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Not to mention most of the commenters just hate on the technology too, every article about any type of transportation that isn't trains people just shit on it in the comments. "How is this gonna save the planet?" "Why does this need to exist?"
Hating technology should be its own community.
Quite candidly, it's not articles selling the spiel of tech bros that is going to help us. I'm one of those commenters and I also wish "Technology" was about technology instead of trying to sell the latest gadgetbahn or a solar road or self driving cars.
EDIT: It's not technically about "helping us", but more specifically about the kind of spiel those "articles" are trying to push. It may very well be about technology, but it's misrepresented as something that could help us and save us in the future while in reality, it's just marginally interesting, Think about how many articles there has been about bitcoins, NFTs, AI and crap like this, coming from techbros and their simps. That's why you'll see the sort of comments you complain about. It certainly is tech, but it's more like tech they're trying to hype, misrepresent and sell.
I love tech. I work in IT. But I can also smell BS and will not hesitate to point it out.
Well said. I like how the communities on Lemmy have a lot of tech and FOSS people who are able to recognize (and call out) a repackaged sales pitch. I understand most mainstream publications have to pay the bills, but so many of the "journalists" are just caught up in the hype cycle.
AI isn't anything like NFTs and Bitcoin, it has an actual use case and is being leveraged by a significant number of white collar workers to automate small tasks and take the sifting out of search engines.
But it is like crypto in that a lot of the attention it's getting thinks it's something that it isn't right now. It might be that in the future but AI has a long way to go still.
Crypto never will be anything, that's the point I'm making.
AI is a tool, a good one. It can't take your job anymore than the cotton gin took the job of textile workers, but the professional can make plenty of use to help shorten their workdays with it. As it gets integrated into private companies data environments you'll see more in house models trained on company data that will assist cloud engineers and data engineers in getting things straightened out.
Crypto is a invented currency that was only good for buying drugs and NFT's are literally a scam.
The annoying thing with these reductionist views is that they miss the potential applications.
"JPEGs in the blockchain" is indeed a pointless use case and were so hyped because of greed and a ZIRP world. This doesn't mean that all applications built on top of NFTs are worthless. For example, one could see a well-thought ticketing system based on NFTs that could destroy Ticketmaster.
No it couldn't, it provides nothing that a few database tables couldn't. NFTs themselves are essentially just pointers to things that can be traded, you are always going to be entirely at the mercy of whatever system is deciding what is being pointed to.
Transparent consensus about the data can not be achieved with a few database tables.
You could make the argument that this does need a blockchain and it could be built on another decentralized consensus protocol (like Paxos), but then you'd lose the permissionless aspect of it and such a system would likely end up being control by a monopoly or oligopoly, like the whole ticketing industry is controlled by Ticketmaster today.
The ticketing use case could work precisely because a ticket is just a pointer. Access to the actual venue/seat would still need to be verified in person, but the issuing of tickets and transactions in the primary/secondary markets are the nasty parts that are exploited by Ticketmaster and gives them so much moat.
and why is that needed?
And someone in the real world has to look at that and let the person through the door, how does the ticket being an NFT help that at all compared to a database entry with a ticket ID tied to a name and requiring ID? Even if it was an NFT how does that help when you have no control over the system that maps NFTs to seats? Come to think of it, an NFT would just encourage scalping as they are inherantly tradeable and so vulnerable to buying by anonymous accounts and then reselling.
Make the smart contract that forbids multiple transfers, or make transfer more expensive after the initial purchase (unless authorized by some pre-approved address and/or an address that has an associated real ID)
Because we'd like to have a system that can not be manipulated or controlled by a single entity?
You still do though, that's the entire point. Whenever your token interacts with the real world who ever is doing that is a single entity controlling the process.
So less protection against reselling than a ticket with the name of the person who originally bought it, while also milking large amounts of transfer fees to now have a much larger token with code in it. Why would you you want to have a more complex, more expensive, less good system?
At any given individual event, yes. But if there is any abuse, it is easy to change said entity.
What I have in mind would be that we can take all these separate functions performed by a large company and break them apart. A centralized organization could be broken apart, but that would require a lot more political power than by simply designing up the system in a way that all functionality is spilt and has to conform to a specific interface.
Are you talking about the blockchain fees or the ones established by the "smart contract"? If the former, those can easily be avoidable by using a separate blockchain (specific for the use case and backed/supported by the participating venues, which would be glad to pay anything reasonable compared to the racket run by Ticketmaster), or like I said, not even use a blockchain at all and just stick with a permissioned consensus system.
Totally agree!
"Here's some incremental progress that is a possibly interesting technological improvement."
" Omg it isn't literally perfect and exactly aligning with my interests. Literal capitalist trash, zero value, no one wants it"
In my experience it's been quite the opposite. The press release will be "here's some shiny new big deal" and the comments in this community will point out that it's not only nothing new, but often actively working against users' interests.
Like Meta totally joining the Fediverse or Apple ""fully"" adopting RCS despite both those companies having a long history of anti-interoperability practices. There's a lot of BS that comes out of silicon valley, and there aren't a lot of good journalists able (or willing) to rightfully understand what's being said, so they repeat the big claims without proper context.
You forgot to call it fascist. That’s a word people with that attitude tend to throw around a lot.
I think this is a flaw in the current state of Lemmy. There's so few posts compared to Reddit that random people will find your 3 upvoted post in all. This leads to people outside of the community dominating the discussion.
You can also see this with other communities. Everytime I see the conservative one in All it's a non conservative OP being insulted by other non conservatives, because they assumed OP must be a conservative to post there.
There being an anti tech community won't solve this issue. I think the most accessible solution is moderation.