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    [–] doingthestuff 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    All three are shit. You can't change my mind.

    [–] greedytacothief 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    They all suck in their own unique way! For me I can tolerate the way Linux sucks, and for others it's something else. But I think we can all agree that bitching about operating systems is great catharsis.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Mac won't let me do what I want, and offers no explanation and the forums are filled with people telling me why what I want is wrong.

    Windows has a way to do it, but it's hidden behind 17 menus from 8 eras if UI design, and it just won't shut the fuck up and listen to me. It has needless animations for everything, and trys so hard to be friendly that it's just infuriating.

    Linux let's me do the thing. It gives no directions on how to do the thing, and if I do it wrong, it doesn't even tell me that things are fucked until six months later when I discover I accidentally told it to write the kernel logs to the bootloader and everything is on fire.

    I prefer punching myself in the gonads to being called stupid or jerked around, so that's why I use Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    The sycophants angrily questioning why I want to do something my own way on the equipment I paid for was the most bizarro world thing, I ended up getting rid of that Mac in large part because of that type of attitude on the forums.

    [–] Acters 7 points 1 year ago

    This is why KVM/QEMU with virtio drivers are massively helpful in using windows specific software without needing to dualboot on short notice. Proton also helps run many games on Linux, which is Windows only. Too bad the biggest strength is also a weakness. It's just a pain to set up and figure out problems that will happen from inexperience

    [–] froop 6 points 1 year ago

    Linux sucks for natural reasons. It's easy to tolerate because it's not trying to fuck with you, it's just a consequence of being a hodgepodge of software written by nerds for nerds. Windows sucks for malicious reasons. Microsoft is intentionally making it worse, to make more money, and that pisses me off. MacOS sucks because it assumes you're an idiot, and wants to protect itself from you. I may be an idiot, but that shouldn't stop me from breaking my own machine, god damnit!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I can tolerate how windows and Linux suck, but window management (or the lack there of) on macos triggers me.

    [–] Smokeydope 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Filthy enlightened centrist! how dare you not pick a side and point out that all sides are equally terrible in their own special ways!

    [–] greedytacothief 1 points 1 year ago

    Don't worry, Linux is still the best. But you have to get people thinking about how they use their operating system before you can get them to see the light.

    I'm just playing the long game... I hope.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

    Average BSD user:

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use linux for programming and learn to enjoy everything being 3x harder than needed (Stockholm's syndrome), but it's not like it's good

    I use Windows for gaming (I could use linux to do it, but windows is easier), but it's not like it's any good

    I won't be paying whatever 4 months worth of my income on a MacBook, so it's not like it matters if macOS is any good

    [–] Garbanzo 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    4 months worth of my income on a MacBook

    Is it bad that I can't tell if you're middle income or just want enough RAM to do something useful?

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    I can't tell if you're middle income

    I'm from Brazil. I didn't know this term, but quick googling shows me that Brazil is an upper-middle-income country.

    I make around R$ 3620 ($740 USD) per month, a more than average income in Brazil. A MacBook Air M2 15" comes for R$ 15000 ($3069 USD).

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I just vomit at the idea that they're making these laptops with ram soldered in. unupgradable garbage you have to pay ridiculous premiums for.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    bu bu but its "Apple Unifed Memory" and 8GB of that equals to 16GB of regular ram!!1!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

    I get that they're using some fancy mem, it's not like pc1600 dimms or some shit... BUT not ever being able to yank the old and pop in new? bonkers.

    [–] sheogorath 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sadly if you're doing mobile app work Macs are mandatory.

    [–] Bytemeister 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Walled garden starting to look a lot like a padlocked cell...

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] sheogorath 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Tell me how to make iOS apps on Linux

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Nowadays you can use Expo, if you want to use React Native. They take care of everything, so a Mac isn't needed anymore

    [–] sheogorath 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If your app needs a lot of native modules Expo simply doesn't cut it. Developing iOS apps without running an iOS simulator is a lot of pain. In my early days of development my team actually tried this. There are too many quirks for each major mobile OS (Android & iOS) that makes it a lot of pain during testing if you don't at least try to run it on the simulator.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I agree. It's not impossible but it's cumbersome. You at least need an iOS device.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Downvoters scoff at iPhone users.