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[–] JustZ 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're on to something here. Just the modern vision of the "Second Amendment" which these people have contributes to so much gun violence.

Every other day I hear about people shot because the shooter though their car was being broken into, or that the victim was trespassing. Hello, dumbfucks? There is no state in America where you can kill someone to prevent trespassing or larceny and noone would like it if there were.

They think all of America was like some parts of the unincorporated, lawless west, where people really did open carry all the time. Meanwhile, there are numerous examples from the incorporated states and judicial districts of people being charged for open carrying without a valid reason; i.e., "I am out hunting," "I am a banker," I am a policeman," "I am a soldier," "I am a common carrier for hire," "I am transporting cargo that is free on board to the destination," "John Smith is after me for what I done to his sister," etc. If you open carried otherwise, it was a lawless shithole where nobody did legitimate business or it was a breach of peace. Respectable establishments would throw you out.

A lot of this fantastic romanticization is traceable to conservative media, which pushes this false imagery, literally so that regular people don't stop killing each other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They forget that many of the old western towns had pretty strict rules about checking your guns with the sheriff and they'd come at you guns drawn to ensure your compliance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. They had armed bandits back then, they knew what was up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They think all of America was like some parts of the unincorporated, lawless west, where people really did open carry all the time.

Pretty much every town in the Old West with more than a dozen people had gun control. No "open carry" bullshit. You had to leave your gun with the sheriff when you entered town. Or you would be arrested / fined / whatever.

These are people who knew exactly what guns were and how to use them as tools. There's zero reason to walk around town with a gun, unless you want to shoot someone. Outside of town: go nuts.