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These countries tried everything from cash to patriotic calls to duty to reverse drastically declining birth rates. It didn’t work.

If history is any guide, none of this will work: No matter what governments do to convince them to procreate, people around the world are having fewer and fewer kids.

In the US, the birth rate has been falling since the Great Recession, dropping almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022. Today, the average American woman has about 1.6 children, down from three in 1950, and significantly below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children needed to sustain a stable population. In Italy, 12 people now die for every seven babies born. In South Korea, the birth rate is down to 0.81 children per woman. In China, after decades of a strictly enforced one-child policy, the population is shrinking for the first time since the 1960s. In Taiwan, the birth rate stands at 0.87.

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[–] TenderfootGungi 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The cost of raising a child has gone up thousands. No government has come close to subsidizing the increase.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That’s my experience too. I read the whole article to find out what countries have actually tried helping with the expenses of raising a child. The most financial help mentioned was a 30,000 LOAN that would be given to newly weds and only forgiven if they had 3 kids… 30k isn’t enough for one kid…

The only other financial help I saw was $7000 per kid in Russia.

And money is only one part of the problem. It takes time to raise kids. If both parents have to work full time there isn’t any time left to raise your kids even if you’re rich while working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

20th cenrury's policies put a lot of effort into distancing us from our means and our families. Paying peanuts for a newborn wouldn't help poor who are most likely to want it, only to dig themselves deeper. It's, true, a systemic problem that can't be solved with a mere donation.

[–] Jivebunny 1 points 1 year ago

Russia was already building their army back then hehe

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, how much cash are they offering? If it's a one time payment of like $1000, that won't even cover the cost of nappies in the first year.

[–] uncle_bagel 16 points 1 year ago

That won't even cover the epidural for the delivery in the US

[–] TORFdot0 10 points 1 year ago

Even if you choose not to have kids, the sad thing is that you'll spend the same money taking care of your parents when we stop taking care of our elderly in 20 years so the rich can have more tax breaks. The really sad part is you'll spend all your money on both if you do have kids anyways