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Yes, you're looking at ~92% tax right there. Final price jumped from ~113 dollars (584BRL) to ~220 dollars.

EDIT: A bit of clarification, when buying from abroad there's a flat 60% federal tax if the thing + shipping price surpasses 50 dollars. Then there's a state tax that can vary between 17-25%, which goes on top of the total taxed value. Part of the tax is literally "tax of a tax"

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess this is supposed to stop you guys from buying stuff in USD, right?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

From buying stuff from abroad in general. If it's imported, it can be taxed. Before Haddad (current economy minister), it was a gamble whether you'd be taxed or not, most of the time you weren't. Now, "to combat contraband", Aliexpress gave the thumbs up to this fucking stupid idea.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh yeah great idea. To combat black market activity, let’s make the open market extremely expensive to use.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I think the real irony is that, up to 1993, it's safe to say 99% of all computers we had here were contraband, because the taxes back then were even more absurd. Never mind the hyperinflation of the time.

[–] Gabu 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that, but there's effectively no black market for imports like PC parts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well that’s certainly not a result of these taxes

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Worked at a trade expo years ago. Talked to Brazilians. Another issue they ran into is corruption.

They were doing their best to temporarily export stuff to Europe, but there were endless delays in Brazil, and sudden and unforseen 'extra fees' that needed to be paid to get stuff out of the country.

Guy wasn't even angry anymore. Just sad. His fellow countrymen were undermining a Brazilian business out of sheer greed.

Incredibly short sighted too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredibly shortsighted too

That’s business. Cash now. The rest is fuck you, cash now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not business, that's corruption. They're not generating any added value like business does, they're parasiting on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is not, as government agencies are not for profit profit organisations de iure. On top of that it's violating law, and debfacto stealing from both the citizen and potentially from the state itself. You can't just throw 'capitalism bad' on any observation of shitty socio-economic behaviour.

[–] Gabu 5 points 1 year ago

Don't blindly believe everything people tell you. Quite often, the reason why these "entrepreneurs" have to pay bribes is because they didn't go through official channels and/or don't have the necessary permits to operate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This whole thread is best of Lemmy material but especially your comment!

[–] Gabu -3 points 1 year ago

I.E. you're saying you're okay with tax fraud, is that right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brazil’s government heavily pushes for things to be made there. A place I worked several years ago had an office there for some final assembly or something for products sold there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thats a lie. This policy was negotiated mostly with the burgeouis resellers.

We have NO concrete plan to actually industrialize.