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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Suppressive fire is already an obselete doctrine. That's why the British army is replacing their machine guns with DMRs (Canadian military may be heading in the same direction).

Turns out turning a motherfuckers head into a fine red mist with a 7.62 tends to make everyone else around them really eager to seek cover. The threat of a well placed shot has a far better suppressing effect than the reality of a bunch of inaccurate fire.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What's with the credible takes?

Sir this is NCD

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

May I propose a fully-automatic, belt-fed 7.62 sniper rifle as a noncredible happy medium?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

borderlands has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Now this is the quality content I come here for

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think you meant to say .22LR APFSDS DMGG (designated marksman gatling gun)

[–] Telodzrum 3 points 1 year ago

It's just the car gun from The Jackal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious where you found a credible take.

This "we're past machine guns now" thing has been tried multiple times before, including by the brits.

our rifles will shoot better instead

our rifles will shoot more instead

I wonder what MG they'll get after this doesn't work

[–] Stuka 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds more like somebody doesn't want to spend as much on small arms ammo than found a superior infantry doctrine

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I'd imagine a sniper is probably one of the most effective ways to suppress a group. They probably don't know where the shots are coming from, and don't know when it's safe to move again.

Having said that, I would imagine there are situations where traditional suppression is better. A hail of bullets against the side of an APC is probably terrifying even if none of them are getting through. It's going to be tough to get someone to open the hatch as the bullets are flying in. But, with designated marksmen only, you'd have to wait until the enemy tries to get out of the APC and then make a tough shot to hit them as they do.

[–] Sylvartas 8 points 1 year ago

So, basically what the USSR did ? (IIRC, machine gunners and sharpshooters carrying some semi auto scoped rifle were basically interchangeable in their doctrine, at least during WW2)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago