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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What is left? Photoshop? Excel?

Meh

[–] Rustmilian 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can literally use photoshop in your browser now, thanks to webassembly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks neat but Adobe's prices are always shockingly high.

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about other software? XD, Illustrator, Lightroom, etc. What about cross communication between them? Can I see my imported vectors change instantly in Photoshop when I change them in Illustrator? The problem with industrial applications like tools from Adobe is that just running one app alone is not enough.

[–] Rustmilian 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Adobe is working on it : illustrator, lightroom.
It's all handheld in the cloud, so I don't see why they wouldn't or couldn't implement syncing.

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago

I guess it will fruition some day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Photoshop is now available in the browser. Just Excel (not always, sometimes LibreOffice Calc with VBA compatibility does the trick), the other Adobe Creative Cloud applications, and some other Windows-only software (for example I dual boot Windows, because of advanced game macros written in AHK that don't work on Linux via wine or ahk_x11, and I have failed in porting or rewriting them (it's too big of a task, there is a whole team behind the actual macro). So... still some reasoms to run Windows, but fhese reasons are decreasing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this. Freecad does not count even though it's slowly getting better. There needs to be industry tools available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fusion 360 works pretty well via Lutris

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proper CAD or AutoCAD? Those are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

CAD, AutoCAD is just a CAD program

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant if it was because AutoCAD or any other CAD program.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah nevermind, yeah at home/work I use SolidWorks and Fusion 360

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using ARES Commander for a few years now as an AutoCAD alternative on Linux.

An there is also BricsCAD for which the 3d options seem to better developed than with ARES.

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adobe software, MS Office, CAD software, video editors, audio editors, etc. Pretty much none of the industrial software works on Linux. If you do any kind of work on a workstation, you need either Windows or Mac. The only exception to this rule is Blender.

The only professional use for Linux is servers.

[–] Rustmilian 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You'd be surprised how much Linux is growing in the video & audio production industry. It may not be the defacto but it's certainly gaining popularity.
For example, we got PreSonus not too long ago.

! Not to mention that Hollywood prefers Linux; why Maya, Houdini, Softimage, etc. are on Linux !<

[–] Aux 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hollywood doesn't use Linux, Hollywood offloads rendering to render farms, which run on Linux. Thus my point: the only professional use for Linux is servers. No one in their sane mind want to fuck around NVIDIA drivers on Linux to colour grade a scene.

[–] Rustmilian 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The claim that Hollywood doesn't use Linux and only offloads rendering to Linux-based render farms is false. In reality, 95% of the desktops, laptops, and servers used at big-budget movie production studios such as Disney/Pixar, DreamWorks Animation/SKG, Sony, and ILM run on Linux.
Linux is considered state-of-the-art in Hollywood, and a lot of the internal proprietary software created by these studios are either cross-platform or Linux-only. Major studios have ported millions of lines of proprietary code to Linux and continue to develop primarily for Linux. Additionally, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has teamed up with the Linux Foundation to launch the Academy Software Foundation.

Regarding the claim about NVIDIA drivers on Linux, while it's true that dealing with NVIDIA drivers on Linux can be challenging, professionals in the industry custom build their systems to minimize issues and still use Linux for tasks such as color grading scenes.

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Proofs? I mean even Resolve doesn't work properly on Linux and a lot of features are missing.

[–] Rustmilian 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's unlikely they use DaVinci Resolve in their major production workflow, they develop their own internal tools with patients up the ass. These Major studios are in direct competition with each other, they're not going to freely give away their trade secrets just like that; it'd end up getting reverse engineered. We know they primarily use Linux because they've (each) publicly stated so on multiple occasions.
As well as their public contributions to Open Source that point to this conclusion. For example, the previously mentioned Academy SoftWare Foundation(ASWF) provides a platform for open source software developers in the media and entertainment industry to share resources and work together on technologies for image creation, visual effects, animation, and sound production. The founding members of the ASWF include Blue Sky Studios, Cisco, DreamWorks Animation, Epic Games, Google Cloud, Intel, Walt Disney Studios, and Weta. Over 80% of the film production industry uses and produces open source software, most especially for visual effects and animation.

[–] Aux 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious right now? Resolve is used by all major British TV networks like BBC and Channel 4. Resolve was used in making such movies and series like Alien: Covenant, Pirates of the Caribbean, Everything Everywhere All At Once, The Protege, Star Wars: The Last Jedi (and pretty much most modern Star Wars productions), Thor: Love And Thunder, Black Widow (and pretty much ALL Marvel movies). You will be hard pressed to find any high budget movie or TV programme made without Resolve.

DaVinci Resolve is an industry standard. If you're not using it, you're not making movies.

[–] Rustmilian 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fair enough, but that may very well only prove that Hollywood mains Linux as Resolve has made some promises to improve the Linux version which wouldn't be necessary otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're casually blowing off two of the main reasons why I still have to use Windows.

Is there a Linux alternative to Excel that will allow me to reliably write and execute VBA macros that I can then deploy to my windows using co-workers?

Is there a Linux alternative to Photoshop? Doesn't even need to be the most current version. I'd be happy with something that is functionally comparable to Photoshop 7.

I'm not being glib with those questions either. It's been probably ten years since I've really used Linux. If there are legitimate alternatives I'd absolutely give it another go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spin up a Windows VM in Linux for those apps.

Or at least dual boot if you are into Linux.

Or at a minimum put Linux on another device with older hardware...

;(