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[–] iwasgodonce 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I feel like a pretty good vehicle for a lot of people like that who need a truck sometimes and don't want a second vehicle could be one of the new small diesel trucks, like the ram ecodiesel. 30mpg is more than even most compact SUVs get, it's still a truck for people that like that, and it can haul/tow more than a compact suv as well.

A big problem with 2 vehicles instead of 1 is often that insurance costs so much more, even if you're driving the same number of miles as when you had 1 vehicle. Registration fees too.

[–] grue 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

one of the new small diesel trucks

There is no such thing.

This is what a small diesel truck looks like:

Nothing like it is made anymore, at least not for the US market.

[–] iwasgodonce 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it would be nice if those were still made.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an EV ute-sized truck I saw going for sale soon in the EU and I want it so badly here in the US

Don't need a big pickup truck by any means, but I DO need something that can haul a couple hay bales 10 miles every few weeks or so and tow something in a pinch

Currently I just manage with my Leaf cuz fuck paying for gas, but the market is def there as I'm not the only one in my area that would love it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Full BEV maverick please. Ford, you’re soooooo close.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A Ram EcoDiesel was still a full sized truck, the Maverick is the logical option, hopefully they release an AWD hybrid version...

[–] EatYouWell 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I bought the Santa Cruz, and I love it. 28mpg city and 35 highway, and I can still pull 3500lb.

[–] time_fo_that 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's rated at 22 city 26 hwy, do you really get that much?

The super short bed looks a little less than useful but I do like the idea of an actually small truck because every truck these days is monstrosly large.

[–] EatYouWell 2 points 1 year ago

Yup, but it mostly depends on the road inclination. If there's a lot of uphill it's more like 26/30.

And the bed is pretty useful, especially with the tourneau cover you can get. I did end up getting a bed extender to let me carry stuff like plywood sheets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's the legroom in the second row? I love the aesthetic of the Santa Cruz and that it's not an obnoxiously large truck while still capable of hauling and towing stuff. I did notice that the space inside looks pretty tight.

[–] EatYouWell 1 points 1 year ago

It's really not bad. I've had people sit behind me (6'3") comfortably. It's actually the first vehicle I've driven where I had to scoot the seat up a bit.

I'm pretty sure it's just the Tuscon with a truck bed instead of a trunk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, a trailer is sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you need a truck sometimes just get a MPV. Citroen Berlingo in XL version has 850 liters of cargos pace. The biggest Ford Raner has 1050 liters. If someone thinks they will actually carry things in their pick up I can't fit in my Berlingo they live in a fantasy land.

The dumbest thing I see is people using SUVs as family cars. MPV will be cheaper and 100x more practical for this. But people don't buy tracks and SUVs for practicality. They buy them for looks and to brag.