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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Don't do this to me. I don't need one. I already have the OG. This is a losing battle for me, I can feel it now.

[–] echo64 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's less than a frame of lag difference, it's not noticeable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not so much this article as it is all the articles I've seen and expect to see in the future about the ways it's actually better despite Valve saying it's not actually that much better.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One frame at 30fps is 33ms, you can most certainly notice 33ms of input delay, that's the difference between life and death in dark souls

[–] echo64 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are not talking about a 30hz display. Also, no, most people can't tell a 33ms input lag. Again, in the retrogame world, we deal with this a lot. I've spent a stupid amount of money to get zero added lag from my retro game setups. But that means we tested a lot.

3-4 extra frames of lag? Yeah, you'll feel that if you are super sensitive to a particular game. But we're talking about less than a frame of added lag here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The tests are literally 30fps

[–] echo64 4 points 1 year ago

Sometimes, the games were running at 30fps, yes. That doesn't mean anything. The amount of extra input saved was about 8ms, which is less than a frame of a 60hz display. It's less than a quarter of a frame of 30fps gameplay. If you really wanna get on that. It doesn't make it a better situation.

[–] PixxlMan 2 points 1 year ago

One frame is probably in the context of the screen, not the framerate of the games. (The deck doesn't have variable refreshrate so the screen will always use the same underlying framerate)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stay strong. You don't need it. Plus, they'll probably be cheaper later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

True. And the limited translucent case is one of the most attractive things making it seem time sensitive, but they also made it easier to replace those bits this time around too, so I will have more personalized options later on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm waiting for a v2. It probably won't happen for a couple years at least, but I think it plays fine as is and I can wait for a proper upgrade.

It does look tempting though.

[–] j4k3 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pull the trigger. Sell the old one. Drive the prices of the old ones down to dirt cheap. I might actually buy one then.

[–] NewNewAccount 3 points 1 year ago

Second hand prices are already very cheap. 512s near me selling for $300 with case and charger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This. Let me buy your neglected deck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go the other way. Buy a dock, slap it under a tv and forget it has a screen entirely.

Plug a flirc into the dock to wake the deck with your AV/TV, and you'll even forget it has buttons too.

[–] MajesticSloth 1 points 1 year ago

This is how I've used mine almost 100% of the time. I got it because a gaming laptop I had was getting a bit old. I use the Deck like I used that laptop. Moving from room to room as needed and hooked up to a TV in each.

I'm stuck in bed some days, so having something that is easily moved like the Switch has been great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fortunately I already have a laptop with a near-OLED display, otherwise I'd be tempted.

("Near-OLED" means an ASUS Nebula HDR display BTW. It's an LCD display but the brightness and color gamut are more like an AMOLED display. I have mixed feelings about ASUS in general but god damn do they make a pretty LCD panel.)