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[–] interceder270 -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not because the administration isn’t trying hard enough, it’s because nothing will stop the fighting until Israel achieves at least some of its goal for destroying Hamas and building back the deterrence.

Errr... exactly what has the administration done? What consequences have there been for Israel, threatened or realized?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They got the 4hr pauses. The president went there. The Secretary of State went there. The land assault was pushed off for days in the beginning. They moved two carrier groups into the region to deter Hezbollah and Iran, and Iran has officially said they will not get involved.

They don't negotiate in public so obviously there is no example of threats, but there is evidence of an attempt at moderating the Israeli response, and in the past Biden's strategy has been to hug Israel in public to get as much as possible in private, something like agreeing to refuse to call for a ceasefire in public, as long as Israel does do the 4hr pauses. That very much reads to me as what the Admin achieved.

And since a ceasefire isn't on the table regardless of consequences right now due to Israeli domestic politics, a short 4hr daily ceasefire-in-all-but-name is a pretty big get.

[–] interceder270 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use available information to make an educated guess. As opposed to your method of deciding that because the maximalist position has not been achieved, clearly nobody has done anything at all.

[–] interceder270 -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because the maximalist position has not been achieved

Lol, you mean doing anything at all? Didn't know that was a 'maximalist' position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They got the 4hr pauses