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Tesla will sue you for $50,000 if you try to resell your Cybertruck in the first year::Tesla may agree to buy the truck back at the original price minus "$0.25/mile driven" and any damages and repairs.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“ Given the subscription model of much of the software Tesla EVs use, resale can be complicated. The Full Self-Driving feature, which costs up to $199 per month, is not transferable to a new owner, Fast Company reported.”

Just another reason I’m never buying

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

$199 per month?! Fuck me that's moronic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't understand. It's not like the self-driving feature is just software where they can price it at whatever they want. It's physically consuming brain cells every month. And those aren't free you know!

::: spoiler Do I really need a \s tag for this or does this tin foil hat make me look fat? :::

[–] scarabic 2 points 1 year ago

It actually came out that one of the self-driving companies has live operators watching every car and intervening in 2.5% of all decisions, so your intent may have been sarcastic but there is actually a reason to suspect there could be brain cells involved.

[–] greenmarty 3 points 1 year ago

For my region it's one time fee 9k $ "only".
It is hilarious given the fact you can't legally use it so it turns into better break asistent 😅

[–] scarabic 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Especially when you realize how bad, unfinished, and dangerous it is. You’re literally paying to be a crash test dummy / AI trainer for them. They should pay YOU.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They should make a discount for every person the self driving software hits. That shit would be basically free.

[–] halcyoncmdr 0 points 1 year ago

That's just the new subscription cost. It is meant a san alternative to the full purchase cost.

As functionality has been added, the price has increased over the years, the current price is $12,000 for the FSD upgrade over basic Autopilot.

The subscription also lets you try it out and cancel if you don't want it instead of having to make the decision up front for thousands of dollars.

[–] agent_flounder 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait so another owner can never have that or..?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I mean it's not actual "full self drive" to begin with. It's a lame impersonation of more advanced self driving vehicles that aren't even being sold yet. That doesn't matter to the elon fans though.

The lie that actually gets people killed, while also tainting the overall perception of autonomous vehicles. Thanks elon.

[–] clutch 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just that the license isn't transferable. The second owner has to (re)license the software from Tesla. Irrespective of whether the seller has a "perpetual" license.

[–] Phlogiston 4 points 1 year ago

I guess if your license could be transferred to your new vehicle this would kinda make sense —- although frankly I’d expect a recurring revenue subscription model instead. Basically this feels like they’ve just been throwing shit at the wall while failing to deliver the feature.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read it as the second owner would have to pay for it themselves to (re)unlock it. So Tesla would get paid twice for the feature in one car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a monthly subscription. I am not sure what the problem is? the new owner can choose to pay it or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I must have misunderstood, because I know you have to pay $12,000-15,000 (seems the price has lowered) for the FSD to be available, then pay subscription on top of that. For some reason I thought they were saying the initial $12k+ “unlock” wouldn’t transfer.

[–] halcyoncmdr 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You either pay for FSD via a monthly subscription OR the full price. So it's either $200/mo or $12,000. It's not both. The subscription option gives you an option to try it before purchasing, or to add and remove it when you want, like for long road trips or something like that.

It's just two different options for people to pick from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you very much for clarifying. It makes sense if a subscription is not transferred but if someone does the outright payment that should be transferred. Asshole move if the one time unlock isn’t.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AFAIK the one time unlock stays with the car.

[–] scarabic 3 points 1 year ago

When I sell you my PC, you don’t get all my software licenses, games, and my internet service for free with it. You have to get your own licenses / subscriptions to those.