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The poll found 50% of Democrats approve of how Biden has navigated the conflict while 46% disapprove — and the two groups diverge substantially in their views of U.S. support for Israel. Biden’s support on the issue among Democrats is down slightly from August, as an AP-NORC poll conducted then found that 57% of Democrats approved of his handling of the conflict and 40% disapproved.

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[–] jordanlund 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to follow up and ask what their opinion is of Trump and if supporting Israel is enough to convince them to not vote.

Disapproval on it's own, means nothing.

I disapprove of a lot of what Biden has done. Does that mean I'll vote Trump? Fuck no!

It's the difference between 40% disapproval vs. 120% disapproval.

[–] givesomefucks 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Very few people switch between the two parties...

But around a third of Americans just don't vote.

And stuff like this makes people not vote. And when turnout is low, we end up with republicans in office.

Getting people to show up to vote is kind of the most important thing in an election...

For some reason when it's a moderate dem candidate, it's no longer their job to get votes. It's the voters job to be the adult and vote for someone they dont want who will do things they do t agree with, because the other option will do things they don't agree with

Do you honestly not understand how this is a terrible strategy and maybe, just maybe, wed be better off running good candidates that will try to help?

Not just about this, but with pretty much every major issues facing America today.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a 'strategy', it's just reality. Better candidates don't get the votes, especially in the dnc primaries

[–] givesomefucks 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the moderates running the party don't want them too...

And like their lawyer told a judge, they're allowed to interfere as much as they want in primaries because they don't even have to abide by the results.

Primaries are an illusion of choice. It's not voters deciding, it's a survey and they can ask all the loaded questions they want to get the responses they want.

They are the problem, and they're fine letting a Republican occasionally win as long as they're still the only other option in four years.

Partly because the same insanely wealthy people donate to both parties.

You think when Trump was giving the DNC millions of dollars that he never asked for anything in return?

You think he just gave away that money for nothing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

As long as the better candidate doesn't manage to top 40% consistently, there's no real pressure for any change. If most people are only willing to invest the absolute minimum (or less) in time and energy in the democratic process, that makes it extremely easy for others to get in power. The US has a shit system but the easiest first step would be a popular majority within the own party.