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[–] JustZ 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's a pretty big possibility, hardly would call it a presumption. Either way, humans are too frail and unpredictable to have limitless access to such killing machines.

Probably had nothing to do with a tumor:

Whitman's father was raised in an orphanage in Savannah, Georgia, and described himself as a self-made man. His wife, Margaret, was 17 years old at the time they wed. The marriage of Whitman's parents was marred by domestic violence; Whitman's father was an admitted authoritarian who provided for his family but demanded near perfection from all of them. He was known to be physically and emotionally abusive towards his wife and children.

This dude in Maine had tried to get a silencer. Wonder how much worse it would have been if everyone didn't hear the reports and start running.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This dude in Maine had tried to get a silencer. Wonder how much worse it would have been if everyone didn’t hear the reports and start running.

Hard to say. It's not like the movies. With the firearm he had (.308 with ~14-16" barrel), a silencer/suppressor only brings the volume down from "instant tinnitus" to "still loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage". It's far from silent. I'd never thought about it until now but I wonder if a silencer/suppressor could have increased surviveability. When people heard gunshots at volumes they would expect, they might be less disoriented. Verses the muzzle flash and concussion that comes from what he was shooting (basically a semi-auto flash bang).

[–] JustZ -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, wonder why they are illegal in the first place then. Oh yeah it's so other people can hear the report.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't. Suppressors require a $200 tax stamp and background check to purchase in the US. The only illegal part is possessing one without paying that tax.

[–] JustZ -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably had nothing to do with the tumor

BRUH, this was his suicide note:

I do not quite understand what it is that compels me to type this letter. Perhaps it is to leave some vague reason for the actions I have recently performed. I do not really understand myself these days. I am supposed to be an average reasonable and intelligent young man. However, lately (I cannot recall when it started) I have been a victim of many unusual and irrational thoughts. These thoughts constantly recur, and it requires a tremendous mental effort to concentrate on useful and progressive tasks.[43]

In his note, Whitman went on to request an autopsy be performed on his remains after he was dead to determine if there had been a biological cause for his actions.

People in the 60's didnt just say "do an autopsy on me" unless something was severely wrong. There was little to no public understanding of neurology, the general public wouldn't even think to guess that a brain tumor could play such a role.

And not like Whitman suspected it a little bit; before the incident he went to many doctors for help. This was his note in his journal

"I talked with a Doctor once for about two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt overwhelming violent impulses. After one visit, I never saw the Doctor again, and since then have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and seemingly to no avail."

He talked to friends about it and nobody would take him seriously because they just saw him as a respectable person with overblown concerns. His case is part of Neurology classes in Texas universities!

[–] JustZ 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

None of this constitutes medical evidence. It reads to me like bullshit conjured up after the fact to assuage a scared public by saying that there was something physically wrong with this man, when in fact he just wanted to hurt people because he was fucked up from years of trauma.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would consitute medical evidence?

[–] JustZ 1 points 1 year ago

Modern gross pathology of the brain.