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One of these pulled up at my workplace today and I can not get over how stupid they look and that got me thinking, who thought making a shittier version of an Odyssey was a good idea.

This thing can't be useful as a truck, can't seat as many as a van, costs $50k and burns more gas then an Odyssey (10l/100km hwy vs 8l/100km hwy). Does anyone who drives these things think they are hot shit?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I bought one and while I with they had a version that was compact sized instead of midsized, your hot take is terrible.

It is expensive, but my cars prior to it were a used 1992 Civic si I owned from 2001 till 2014, then I drove our 2005 Camry from 2014 till Dec 2022.

When buying a new car I wanted two primary things: a decent AWD ride and a bed I could put nasty stuff in and hose out after, like mulch and dirt. Something that did not work with enclosed spaces. I tried a few light trucks and they handled poorly or seemed cheaply made. The Tacoma has apparently needed to continue growing and is almost a full size now, too tall. The Ridgeline was the smallest one that seemed well made, had a decent ride, and has a bed I could hose out.

It sits lower than other trucks, so I generally feel small compared to other trucks. No idea why you think it is huge. Don't think I am hot shit, just someone who couldn't find a well made light truck and settled for the closest thing.

On a side note, it works perfectly fine as a truck and nobody buys trucks to seat 8 people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't want or need a van.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A new Transit (at it's smallest) in North America would be...

  • 12" taller
  • 10" longer
  • 3" wider
  • $6,000 more expensive comparing base sticker prices (Cargo)
  • $11,000 more expensive comparing base sticker prices (Passenger)
  • Use 20-30% more fuel (using Fuelly data to estimate)

This is what grinds my gears about people saying to get a minivan instead of a mid-size crossover - yes I get ego is something to get past but MINIVAN'S ARE 80" WIDE THESE DAYS.

In fact, if that person bought an Odyssey instead of a Ridgeline, they'd net a total difference of five inches of length.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, as has been pointed out buying an Odyssey would have been better, not that the Odyssey is good (also hate the enbiggening of minivans). I think people buying ridgelines are driving them empty and without passagers (like almost all trucks in north america), but are trying to justify having a truck. This thing is basically the "just the tip" of trucks.

If you have use of a truck bed, you likely are not buying this. If you think you would like the option of a truck bed then you are likely buying this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm not really using the truck bed then, thanks for letting me know!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said it looks silly and I am confused why someone made it.

I do feel your pain of not having any choice of a small truck, but this thing is silly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly I would love a compact fully electric or hybrid truck that gets better mileage but rides the same as a car with a bed in the back. A two seater or with a short back seat to load stuff in the cab so it is shorter would be even better!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thoughts on the ford maverick? As someone who doesn't know trucks, unibody hybrid seems to be the right fit for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of a smaller and less expensive light truck and hope they are successful!

Local dealers didn't have one in stock to test drive when I was looking, I don't like buying the first year of a new or completely overhauled model. I also don't trust Ford to make a vehicle that I can rely on for 10+ years.

With Toyota's success with the Prius I was hoping for a hybrid Tacoma, but they only went hybrid with the Tundra (the bigger one).