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Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM (arstechnica.com)
submitted 1 year ago by L4s to c/technology
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Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM::The platform was to use GM's Ultium batteries.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Meanwhile Hyundai and Kia are absolutely smashing it (in Europe and Asia) with their cheap, reliable cars

And easy to steal

Edit: Downvote me all you want, I got mine stolen this year in Bulgaria, and if you check the news there's a lot of Tucsons stolen like every week. Along with the recent callback of models that risk getting on fire, Hyundai has a pretty shit reputation lately and I wouldn't buy one again even it was free.

[–] Vash63 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought only the American models were easy to steal because they left out some critical antitheft features on the lowest cost models? Didn't think it impacted other countries.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure their refering to the fact that certain Kia(?) models could be jacked using a screwdriver and USB. Basically the engines power button was shit. This is also why I dont fucking trust cars that use startup buttons, atleast if someone hotwires the car they had to work for it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It only affected key start cars, if it was push button start, it was immune to the attack you describe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was going off of something I vaguely remembered. But now my question is why the actual fuck was the key start system setup so badly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My understanding is it doesn't actually verify the chip on some models and the mechanism to start happens to be roughly the same size and shape as a USB plug. They took a risk and now they're paying for it with a full recall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's a damn good question, when chip-keys were fairly common in the 90's already.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in Europe. That fiasco only happened in the US.

[–] reversedposterior 15 points 1 year ago

Because the US doesn't make engine immobilisers mandatory like the rest of the world does