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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don’t blame this on mushrooms. You get what you go in with.

[–] remer 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

And this dude hadn’t slept in 40 hours. Who the hell take mushrooms for the first time with severe sleep deprivation while in the cockpit of a commercial airliner!? This guy was unstable to begin with. Hopefully this doesn’t set back the public and regulatory perception of psilocybin and all of the therapeutic benefits it has.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I understand he had taken the mushrooms 40 hours prior, for his first time ever, and that’s why he’s been awake all that time. However he was also enroute to pilot a flight, which probably wouldn’t have worked out.

[–] Beetschnapps 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I call BS. Mushrooms don’t keep you up and… call me naive but… FLYING A FUCKING AIRPLANE shouldn’t come as a surprise to you. Why not take a sick day?

[–] 13esq 24 points 1 year ago

It can be tough to sleep mid-trip, but 10-12 hours or more later? You have other issues/substances if you can't sleep.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, staying up 2 days and then trying to kill 85 people on an airplane is not a normal reaction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He hadn’t slept in 40 hours, but he took the shrooms 48 hours prior, so he had slept since the shrooms at least for a bit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering he was apparently on a psychotic break, not sure how reliable his self-reporting is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Then maybe he never took shrooms or took them an hour beforehand, too

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

But blame the drugs! 🤗

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supposedly, he took the mushies around 48hrs before, so they were out of his system. So it was probably just extreme sleep deprevation. Which begs the question, it that just considered normal on airlines?

[–] remer 13 points 1 year ago

It absolutely is NOT normal. They have very strict fatigue tracking and rules. This guy shouldn’t have been anywhere near a cockpit. I’m not sure if the rules extend to non-flight crew but I’m sure the FAA will be considering that now.

[–] Stovetop 8 points 1 year ago

Narrator: It did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It should hopefully not have any effect on regulatory perceptions since legal psychiatric use should involve a medication with a certain dose that’s the lowest amount that will help instead of just eating a bunch of mushrooms but we do live in the dumbest timeline. I felt bad for this guy thinking it was a mental breakdown and he needed help but this was a series of really bad decisions.

[–] logicbomb 28 points 1 year ago

I suspect he's blaming the mushrooms because he doesn't want to admit whatever other drugs he's been taking.

If he hadn't slept for 40 hours, it might be that he took meth.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I found a better article on Reuters that says he took the mushrooms about 48 hours before. Would they even still have an effect at that point? I’ve never taken shrooms.

[–] systemglitch 44 points 1 year ago

I've grown mushrooms myself and eaten a ton. He is sober within ten hours max, but in reality the high wears off in about five to six hour range and sane people only want to sleep at that point. At 24 hours you are experiencing no mushroom effects at all, let alone 40-48 hours

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, shrooms only last around 5-7hrs. In the worst case scenario, assume 8hrs so he was most assuredly not tripping. Probably sleep deprivation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Not at all. It’s like max 6 hours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not.