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I can understand the pay point, but not the drug one. Why would anyone hire a testable drugs user to drive? Which employers are fine with hiring drug users in general?
Ironically meth heads can pass drug tests if they haven't partaken recently but marijuana lingers in your fat cells for a month or more. Don't you wish you could weed (pun intended) out people who smoked a joint last weekend while hiring more drunks and crack monkeys?
maybe OP is alluding to marijuana when they mention drug testing.
Bingo. It’s legal here.
Drug users are everyone, alcohol, tobacco, coffee, some are legal, some are still detectable months after use, would you care that your cab driver got drunk last months ? I wouldn't care.
Most any restaurant.
Depends on the drug tests but a lot of them are very bad at catching actual drug users or popping false positives, to being so lax on the actual sample collection that people are smuggling in clean samples rather than providing their own.
So the people following the rules are being penalized and often put under scrutiny they didn't deserve, and those that are breaking the rules in an obvious way aren't being penalized for it.
And there are some scheduled drugs that in no way inhibit your ability to drive or work, especially when they aren't being abused and taken infrequently. And those are the ones most likely to get you caught despite being the least likely to cause an actual problem.
Drug tests don't work like you think. They don't test for the drug itself, they test for the metabolites.
A lot of the big scary drugs your D.A.R.E. officer told you about like cocaine or LSD or meth won't even show up on a drug test a day or two later. So I can dive into the Bolivian Marching Powder on friday after work, and pass a drug test monday.
This falls apart when you get to marijuana, and marijuana causes a lot of issues because it will show up on a drug test weeks later, and these tests cannot determine if a person is high right then, they can only test if a person has used marijuana in the last month or so. This means if I get stoned with my wife on friday I could lose my job monday.
Marijuana is popular in the US. If someone can get a job working for conpany Y for $8 per hour, or a job working for company Z for $8 per hour, but company Y does drug tests, guess who isn't going to get employees? If you want to drug test, you have to pay for workers who will pass it.
Well you can’t be eating those everything bagels.