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I expect this is the likely answer.
But here’s the daily dose of skepticism warranted by the sheer amount of misinformation- both intentional propaganda and kneejerk reactionaries:
That the IDF might not normally use rockets or similar weapons…. Doesn’t mean they don’t have them (from captured stockpiles, for example,)
If asked, my answer is always going to be prefaced with… the only people who really knows for sure are the guys that launched it; and any one who says with certainty “it was XYZ!” Are probably best given an eyebrow raise.
Which. Does it really matter who did it, at this point? This attack barely moves the needle on civilian deaths caused by the Israeli bombardment… or Hamas or any other armed group.
IMO Any one who is not calling for a cease fire, or at least talks… is not on the right side here- and both the IDF and Hamas are on the wrong side.
Yes, if alone for the insane amount of times Israel was found guilty in titles posting about this on the internet, and Lemmy.
Maybe we could say it does not matter now if it did not matter then. But it seemed to matter a lot.
Apart from that, correcting misinformation for truth is always worth it.
Yes. The truth should matter.
I don't think a ceasefire is going to happen until something happens to the people who started this war.
So you’re going to talk about all the other civilians being slaughtered by IDF, right? You get, that’s my point, right? This conflict is killing innocents and it’s both sides killing innocents.
My point is that “it wasn’t Israeli forces that did this” doesn’t absolve Israeli forces from criticism or condemnation when they’re definitely killing civilians.
Which, leads to the second contention- that a cease fire won’t do anything…
what cease fores will do …it’ll stop the creation of more terrorists. Maybe create a road map to peace.
You have to start somewhere. You can’t just keep killing terrorists until there are no more terrorists; the US discovered that the hard way after 9/11;
And let’s be honest and truthful; as bad and awful as Hamas is, the oppression imposed created the environment for them to exist. Am enviroment doubled and tripled down by the people presently in control… and a party that intentionally sabotaged the peace to retain and gain power by indirectly supporting … Hamas.
There have been several ceasefires in place between Hamas and Israel in the last 17 years since Hamas seized power in Gaza, and arguably none of them stopped the creation of new terrorists.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses and murderes Palestinians. The first thing they did when Israel deoccupied Gaza was to seize power from Fatah, murder Fatah members, and suspend elections.
They purposefully murdered Israeli civilians when they could have targeted military targets. They purposefully place terrorist installations next to civilian places like hospitals, places of worship, etc. in the Gaza strip.
There's a lot of blame on Israel for propping up Hamas in a belief that they would be less violent than Fatah, but there's also a point where you have to admit that people who decide that they want to commit terrorism have some agency of their own, and that not even terrorist act committed by Hamas can be squarely blamed on Israel.
Shit happens in a war. Hamas shouldn't have started a war.
As to wanting a ceasefire, ask Hamas to surrender, and then the firing will cease.
Of course, I completely agree. But it is noteworthy if the damage is caused by an errant missile, because it underscores a very important point -- it isn't just Israel that's killing Palestinians. Hamas and affiliated groups are also killing Palestinians without a care. This conflict really needs to be separated from the Palestinian civilians, because the two warring parties are both killing them.
Their name is Benjamin Netanyahu.
That's pretty clearly not the case. Netanyahu is a corrupt moron who didn't do enough to stop Hamas, but Hamas is ultimately responsible for their own actions, and those actions started this war.
alright. Now look at what Netanyahu did.
multiple sources to just, you know.... make it obvious... Ol' Netty supported hamas to destabilize and fracture the PA- explicitly to avoid having a viable Palestinian state. Before Netty came to power in the 90's they were almost there. Likud, as a party has never been about peace since before the State of Israel was actually a thing.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/16/how-benjamin-netanyahu-empowered-hamas/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
So. Yeah. Lets talk about who shares guilt in this clusterfuck. but yes. Lets blame this entire war on Hamas.
Yes, it's entirely Hamas's fault, because they are adults, not children, and are responsible for their own actions. Criticism of Netanyahu for prior relationships his government had with Hamas is justifiable and reasonable, but at the end of the day, if someone breaks into a home and rapes and murders the inhabitants, they're responsible for what they did.
only if you excuse the apartheid the Palestinians are living through
Sometimes, when you start a war and lose, things get worse for you. If the Palestinians focused on building their country up rather than starting wars intent on genicide, maybe they'd have decent living conditions by now.
The Palestinians were attacking Israel long before the current apartheid.