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"We dug our own grave with Cybertruck" Musk told investors (www.motortrend.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Buffaloaf to c/enoughmuskspam

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Musk also claimed that "there have not been new car [brands] that have been successful for 100 years, apart from Tesla."

Some automotive brands that were founded in the last 100 years:

Chrysler (1924) Volvo (1927) BMW (1928) Datsun/Nissan (1931/1933) Fiat (1932) Toyota (1936) Volkswagen (1937) Jeep (1943) Land Rover (1948) Honda (1963)

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[–] ttmrichter 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BYD and XPeng, however, are especially relevant because the former is kicking Tesla's ass in EV space and the latter is about to. (And BYD makes some kick-ass public buses too. Glorious vehicles!)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chinese manufacturers are doing well in the European market too. It's a genuine worry for traditional manufacturers who have failed to innovate for too long.

Geely's another big one. They own Volvo but also produce cars under the Lynk and Co brand. Have good lease deals in the Benelux. Then there's Nanjing Automobile. Own MG and make a quite good (and very affordable) range of electric cars.

Honestly, I'm also sceptical, but if I buy a new car it's likely to be an MG 4 based on glowing reviews and affordability.

[–] ttmrichter 2 points 1 year ago

It’s a genuine worry for traditional manufacturers who have failed to innovate for too long.

Oh, don't worry. European governments will take a page from the American playbook and find a "national security" reason to ban Chinese cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same for me. I'm moving back to France next year and I need to buy a car, there is a good chance it will be a MG4