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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (4 children)

On the day of the killings, Veltman denied that he went out on the day with the intention of conducting murders despite the fact he had written a manifesto, put on a military helmet, a bulletproof vest, and a white shirt with a cross on it that was a reference to an online meme about crusaders killing Muslims.

Dude is just trying to save his skin and pass the blame for what he did elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right, but the blame does lie with multiple people too. Yeah, his only chance of saving his skin is if other's responsibility somehow diminishes his own culpability, but he will soon find out this is not a zero-sum game.

But shouting "fire!" In a crowded theater isn't free speech and will get you a jail sentence if it creates a disaster. Infowars (and Alex Jones specifically), and other organisations (they identify libertarian and mainstream conservative content plus youtube algorithm) also need to be held to account for inflammatory speech that encourages violence; provided that it can be demonstrated that they're pushing dangerous misinformation. Especially if they are making money doing it.

I won't hold my breath waiting to see that happen though.

[–] Everythingispenguins 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't intend to do any murdering, he just was fully prepared just in case the opportunity for some murdering came up. You know how one might pack a few snacks just in case they get peckish between meals.

[–] jarfil 4 points 1 year ago

denied that he went out on the day with the intention of conducting murders

What did he expect, that they would respawn?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure you can't claim a crime of passion if you put on a bulletproof vest, it's not exactly normal attire even for NRA idiots.