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Tensions spill across universities like Columbia and Harvard as students on each side accuse the other of a kind of bloodlust

To one side, Columbia students stood silently, wrapped in the blue and white of Israel as they gripped pictures of the murdered and abducted. Across the grass and brick divide, a slightly larger cohort of students chanted “Free, free Palestine.”

The faultline between the two ran along the claim by each that the other was pursuing a kind of bloodlust – a charge that has divided university campuses across America in the wake of the bloody Hamas attack on Israeli communities and Israel’s ongoing military assault on Gaza.

Reactions within US universities to the killing of at least 1,300 Israelis and the abduction of about 100 more have swung from celebration of the Hamas assault as a legitimate act of resistance to occupation to condemnation along with a demand that it not be used to ignore the deaths of Palestinians killed in Israel’s retaliation on Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like in Ukraine, it is not enough for one side to stop the violence, they must also reverse the occupation.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reversing the occupation would be wonderful for the Palestinians people- unless Hamas take over, since their charter explicitly states that they want to establish an Islamic State in Palestine, which would also oppress the Palestinian people. Which is why both Israel and Hamas must be denounced for the sake of the Palestinian people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Likewise corruption and social issues in Ukraine must be denounced, although in denouncing aspects of both sides, it must not be implied that the current situation is created equally by the actions of both sides.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but that is not in any way the same thing. I'm not in favor of corruption in any country, but you're not talking about two different types of severe oppression there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree, the problematic issues within Ukraine are trivial compared to the problems with the way Russia or Hamas operate. However, it's also the case that the actions of Hamas are not comparable to the actions of the Israeli state, most especially in the long term.
Both sides in any conflict must be held to account for their actions or inactions, but in doing so care must be taken not to suggest that both sides are equally the orchestrators of the situation.