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[–] beaubbe 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is crazy is that with 1 passenger per car, that is not that many people. Like not even 50. You could all fit in a single bus

[–] Airazz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or motorcycles/bicycles, if you really want personal mode of transport.

[–] greo -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please no motorcycles they are annoying and loud as fuck

[–] scutiger 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] overzeetop 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And yet they always are. Not to mention dangerous (statistically, per user-mile).

Also, please don't argue with me on that last point. Instead, argue how safe they are with a doctor or nurse at your local emergency room. They will, I'm certain, agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If those 50 people are all going to same places than the bus goes. At the same time.

A coworker was taking the bus to get home. 2 hours due to two line changes where they can wait up to 30 minutes for the next bus. I started giving him a ride home when I could.

5 minutes out of my way and cut his commute down to 20 minutes. From 2 hours. That's 120 minutes down to 20 minutes. With just that extra hour of sleep he's much happier.

An extra hour and a half of each day wasted on public transportation.

[–] lynny 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In most countries with public transport you only have to wait 10-15 minutes for the next bus on that line.

[–] Gecko 1 points 1 year ago

10-15 minutes? For me it's like 5-8 :>

[–] gundog48 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Public transport is great in cities, but as soon as things get more sparsely populated, you get diminishing returns. Everything takes longer, runs infrequently, and still barely gets you close.

But then if they run more frequently, they'd be empty.

Yet, where I live, they keep introducing hostile rules, new houses can only have one parking space, at a time where kids are having to live with their parents for longer, so their mobility, job opportunities, etc are really hampered. It would be one thing if there was decent public transport infrastructure, but there's literally nothing, just people becoming 'stuck' because those who make the rules often don't think about areas as a whole.

[–] ghariksforge 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people live in cities. The fraction of rural population is small and getting less.

[–] ThePantser 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not as true as it used to be. Many companies are still allowing working from home. The rural areas around me have seen a huge influx of new construction since you can live anywhere and work for many jobs. Both myself and wife work from home and have considered moving out of the city but won't until the kids are done with school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then they become densely populated, which is a great place to build more transport :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

30 mins is pretty jarring even for U.S. standard. Especially during commute time.

In other countries I have been to most buses take at most 15 mins to come. Trains typically take around 5 mins, and much more frequent during rush hour (around 2 to 1 mins per train).

Another problem with U.S. transportation system is the poor investment on train (somehow people are into those "Hyperloop" when a normal subway system has been demonstrated time and time again to already be way more efficient than car). For buses, its speed is limited by traffic, so it is unlikely for bus to be faster than cars.

Another thing I would like to point out is that time is not "wasted" on transport, you can read, browse social media, news, watch videos, things you cannot do in a car. And you can enjoy music with a much better sound system (aka head phones), which is not safe in a car.