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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this is a good thing, other countries should do it too

[–] nexusband 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Other countries like Singapore, sure. Countries where you've got to go 20-25 km just to buy basic groceries, fuck no.

[–] fat_stig 6 points 1 year ago

I lived in Singapore without a car, there is no need to own a car. I used public transport and ride sharing without ever feeling that having a car would have improved my experience. In Hong Kong it was the same, and I lived in the Northern Territories, however in Sydney we had a car even though public transport was great, because its a big fucking country. Now in Penang, Malaysia there is no usable public transport, so a car is absolutely essential.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Moneo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20km for groceries is not bad transit planning it's called living in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's completely irrelevant to any discussion related to urban planning and car dependency.

Smfh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did you really think I was referring to rural areas lmfao

[–] spongebue 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah? I did. Because what non-rural areas require going 20-25km for groceries by car?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] spongebue 2 points 1 year ago

Name one place so poorly planned, everyone within a 20km/13 mile radius all share a grocery store because that's the closest one - while still being considered urban. I'll even let you get away with sub-urban.

[–] Moneo 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

go 20-25 km just to buy basic groceries

Homie what the fuck. What percentage of people living in first world countries do you think this applies to?

[–] nexusband 1 points 1 year ago

In Germany, Austria and Italy? A lot. I'd say at least 40%.

[–] antidote101 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm disabled and live among farms with no immediate public transport... I don't think other countries should try this. If I couldn't afford a car, I wouldn't be able to go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously this is only for urban areas

[–] Moneo 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta love people pulling one in a million (and in this case completely irrelevant) exceptions out of their ass as a reason to argue in favour of car infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is Singapore, one of the most urban and built up areas on earth. You're comparing oranges and bricks.

[–] Moneo 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvote because you were at 0. I don't think paying $100,000 for the ability to drive a car is a good system.

Car dependency is better fixed by better city planning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Singapore has pretty good city planning. But you still need a way to disincentivize car ownership, otherwise you end up with overloaded roads anyway.