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Not sure why this got removed from 196lemmy..blahaj.zone but it would be real nice if moderation on Lemmy gave you some sort of notification of what you did wrong. Like an automatic DM or something

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I like Matt Dillyhuntys approach to objective morality: he picks a subjective and kind of arbitrary foundation like wellbeing and objectively measures all actions against this foundation.

[–] poplargrove 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If the standard you use is wrong, no matter how well you use it in figuring out what to do, all the moral judgements that follow from it will be wrong.

I mean that what Matt said has "objective" in there but not in the way that matters. It doesnt address the issues with not having a good way of getting at whats right.

(Obv. this isnt to say that I think e.g some utilitarian approach focusing on wellbeing is wrong, its only the other bit I dont agree with)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every standard is wrong or limited in ways, it doesn't make them useless. Utilitarian views can be useful, but it's also easy to argue that euthanasia for the handicapped is moral from a Utilitarian perspective.

[–] poplargrove 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure but what Matt is suggesting would mean we can hold something completely wrong, even an absurd one as a moral framework so long as we use it properly.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

You can. The absurdity is based on your inherent bias, the concept of absurdity is arbitrary.

[–] trashgirlfriend 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Next step is acknowledging that data is also very infallible and not objective.

[–] TheSambassador 3 points 11 months ago

It's not that data is subjective, it's that the interpretation of that data can be subjective, and the raw data can be misleading.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] trashgirlfriend 1 points 11 months ago

that's the word