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Elon Musk attacked German support for migrants and promoted a call to support a far-right extremist political party
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
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fun fact: this far right extremist party is also the second strongest party in germany, with the strongest being very closely aligned to their values!
That fact is no fun at all :(
That is not true - they are not currently the second strongest.
there are some polls where this party is seen as a strong contender for future elections.
no, not currently. I worded that wrong. They’re gonna be the second strongest party according to polls and general vibe of the country rn. The fascists are coming back, and they’re coming back strong. Attacks against jewish and queer people have risen rapidly. Fuck, even i’ve been the victim of a fascist attack.
Right. On the other hand its Austrian cousin FPÖ is currently polling first 🤮
That's not very accurate, the current chancellor and Germany in general are very left-leaning outside the very catholic regions.
the german government right now is a horrible neoliberal mess trying to greenwash their actions
they are not left at all
if they were, we wouldn’t need Last Generation blocking roads.
The chancellor's party is center-left in the typical European social democrat way, he himself is more of a moderate. But the current coalition polls at around 40%, so calling Germany very left-leaning is a very optimistic statement.
According to current polls, more than 20% are willing to vote for an openly xenophobic, extreme right party of nazi-sympathizers, science deniers and reactionaries. They want to deny basic rights of queers and people with disabilities and call for ceasing to support Ukraine and dropping Russian sanctions. The currently strongest polling party, the center-right CDU, had for a long time been fundamentally opposed to working with the far right, but are now getting more cosy with them, seemingly testing the waters on local and state levels.
So yeah, unless that somehow sounds like a good direction for Germany to move in, "left-leaning" would unfortunately be an optimistic misjudgement of the current state of affairs.
2/3rd of those 20% are protest votes, and a full 10% want the party banned. Things are a wee bit more complicated than a single number which is basically asking whether Ossis are severely pissed.
People viewing Nazis as the lesser evil and willing to enable them are only moderately less worse than proper nazis and no less dangerous.
Protest votes is not "lesser evil" but "the party/parties I like fucked up and I want to scare them straight". Yes it's misguided, yes it's idiotic, but it would be wrong to dismiss those people as Nazis -- they can be brought back quite easily. Also those are polls it would remain to be seen how many actually follow through.
Protest voters willing to vote far right is not really making things better. I don't understand how people wanting to ban it are relevant...
Its making things better in the "are people merely pissed idiots or are they actual Nazis" sense. It also means that Wagenknecht can siphon off a gigantic amount of those votes with her new Nazbol thing.