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Just four days out from a government shutdown, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has declared a bipartisan Senate stopgap measure dead on arrival.

Senators, having apparently lost faith in McCarthy’s ability to stave off a shutdown, negotiated a bill late Tuesday night that funds the government until Nov. 17 and includes $12 billion in aid and disaster relief for Ukraine. It’s expected to be voted on by the end of the week before being sent over to the House, and is intended to buy lawmakers more time to hash out a longer-term deal, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said.

But, according to Punchbowl News, McCarthy said in a closed-door meeting on Wednesday morning that he wouldn’t take up a bill that includes Ukraine funding but no border security measures. “I don’t see the support in the House,” he reportedly said.

Aid for Ukraine has been one of several sticking points for ultraconservative hardliners in the House who have repeatedly sabotaged McCarthy’s efforts to get spending bills passed.

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[–] 314r8 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump wants a shut down. Trump gets a shut down. Trump wants to blame Biden. I don’t think that’s going to go so well

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Trump wants to blame Biden. I don’t think that’s going to go so well

I think that's expecting too generous a response from voters. To be clear, I don't want a shutdown even if MAGA Republicans are 100% blamed for it. There's just too many people that will be hurt by this.

But unfortunately, those dumb motherfuckers will immediately forget who held the government hostage and damaged the entire country to do it. I say that as judgementally as possible because they are willfully stupid, as long as they can hurt those they don't agree with... And make no mistake: this will hurt the economy, and unfortunately even "moderate" Republicans will blame Biden for that. No one but Trump wins from a government shutdown...

edit: autocorrect

[–] TechyDad 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're already starting. They're claiming that the reason that the government is going to shut down is because Biden refuses to negotiate.

Of course, the problem here is that 1) Biden DID negotiate back in June/July and got a deal which the House Republicans are breaking, 2) the Senate passed a bipartisan bill that Biden would sign, and 3) the debate is in the House right now. On the latter point, Biden has no place in the House. He could negotiate behind the scenes or make public comments, but it's not his job to go onto the House floor and try to get votes for a bill.

Blaming Biden for the House being unable to pass a bill is like blaming your doctor for your car problems.

[–] hydrospanner 1 points 9 months ago

You're exactly right...

but

That's not gonna mean a thing to the already irrational Trump voters...

but

If these house morons used their heads, they'd realize they've already got those votes in the bag, and all these stunts are doing is weakening their hold on more traditional and more centrist Republican voters. These voters might not flip, but they very well might just not vote for these representatives.

[–] BeautifulMind 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~Trump~~ Putin wants a shut down.

fixed it