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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5717757

Today’s story is about Philips Hue by Signify. They will soon start forcing accounts on all users and upload user data to their cloud. For now, Signify says you’ll still be able to control your Hue lights locally as you’re currently used to, but we don’t know if this may change in the future. The privacy policy allows them to store the data and share it with partners.

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[–] Smokeydope 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Look guys I know you like your smart bulbs and your smart fridge and your smart mirror and your smart toilet paper but maybe MAYBE the inconvienence of having to get up and turn something on with a physical button and not having it connect to your phone is worth the freedom of knowing you haven't and cannot be datacucked by every company that produces your stuff. Throw your bluetooth connected garbage in the trash and stop thinking that controlling home automation stuff with your spyware phone is cool.

[–] WiseassWolfOfYoitsu 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or take personal control. I have smart home stuff but I run Home Assistant and use ZWave devices, so it's 100% local.

[–] Smokeydope 4 points 1 year ago

The average person just isn't tech savy enough to locally host. Its easy to tell people to just host stuff themselves but its a lot of added complexity and maintenance responsibility that most just don't want to deal with. I agree that it would be best if everyone just locally hosted all their services but we live in the real world where the average joe schmo is either too uneducated or busy with their life dramas to learn computer networking or just plain ol' lazy and indifferent to giving up personal privacy as long as they can change RGB lighting with a phone app they are happy as peaches.

[–] tinkeringidiot 3 points 1 year ago

That’s not the easy way, though. People go for home automation in the first place to make something easy. Getting some awful proprietary spyware doodad to work with HomeAssistant is usually not the “just works” experience they’re looking for.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My neighbor bought a wifi enable rat trap the other day. It notifies her when it's been triggered and send a picture of the cage.

A fucking rat trap and she felt the need to spend and extra $40 just so she can share her rat infestation data.

[–] Smokeydope 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its important to know exactly when the rats neck gets snapped with screenshots and the exact velocity trajectory of the spring charted on a data plot, otherwise how else would you for sure the trap got the rat at maximum efficency?

[–] Restaldt 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Often not how traps work

Usually it catches a limb or tail and then the rat either starves or chews off whatever got trapped

Being notified when it goes off you could go check right away to release the rodent elsewhere (or quickly kill it if releasing its not your thing)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This was an electric one. Plugs into the wall and shocks them dead when they walk on it. Quite clean actually, not sure how humane it's supposed to be though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had buttons for lights in my room as early as 1999 and I'm sure they existed before that. Also, the clapper exists lol. We don't have to resort to a light switch like cavemen!

[–] Smokeydope 1 points 1 year ago

Lol good point!

[–] dirthawker0 1 points 1 year ago

I had to replace both my clothes washer and dishwasher in the past 6 months (19 and 22 years old respectively) and the clothes washer can connect to Wifi so I guess you can get notified that the cycle is done through their app. That feature will never get turned on. As for the dishwasher I bought the model that didn't have Wifi. I mean yeah it's cool we're in the Jetsons world but the convenience you get isn't really worth getting your information sold to everyone who wants to sell you an appliance.