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Are there any Reddit refugees spending more time on Lemmy than Reddit?
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this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
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I still lurk on Reddit because there's not enough content on here to keep me satisfied. Also I'm finding it hard to find stuff I like, I wish the interface was more similar to old Reddit.
I frequented the community for my hometown there which has close to 100k subscribers. In fact I was once a mod there. I don't need that anymore, I can just go to a Facebook group or something if I want info (at least it isn't Reddit).
That's where I am at as well. I really loved a few gaming subreddits, and I feel like that presence is not really here in Lemmy yet. And with beehaw defederating from the instance I use, the gaming@beehaw community is basically pointless.
That's one of the things I really hate about this federation thing. The fact that communities can just defederate makes everything very unreliable.
It's early days so things are in flux. Communities will stabilise as they scale. I think people coming from Reddit misunderstand the Fediverse; I know I did - there does not need to be just one "federation" - some communities will be linked together in one federation and others will sit in their own separate instances or federations.
I think it's likely there will be one (or more) large dominant popular/mass fediverse with a broadly shared ethos - and that currently looks like servers like lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, kbin.social, fedia.io etc - and numerous other smaller or focused fediverses of various sizes. Beehaw seems to be going that route at present for example (or at least until some of it's concerns around moderation can be vetted). Once that alignment takes shape and communities mature, members of a broad federation would be disincentivised from defederating from each other.
The BeeHaw communities were larger and attracted people as they'd been longer established, but people swamped them and the moderation tools and vetting tools aren't in place for Beehaw to maintain it's ethos. I suspect it won't federate in the near future with big instances (and I applaud that as their focus seems to growing their community more organically around their ethos), and in terms of users they'll probably grow more slowly than the others. The large open Lemmy & Kbin communities in other servers are more likely to attract growth, but at present they're chaotic and not established as communities.
Stability and reliability in terms of federation will grow out of this. New servers for example are going to likely want to federate with the established big Lemmy and Kbin servers as thats where the users are and so hopefully will be the content.
Yeah there is no point subscribing to the @beehaw communities from defederated servers; the content will not update. I respect the Beehaw motives, but I'd suggest users of big Lemmy and Kbin servers are better sticking with and building communities hosted on the big servers for now while things establish and stabalise. One of the problems is th Beehaw communities are still visible in the directories causing confusion.
There are alternatives, for example [email protected] has 2.9k, but it'll need people participating to help grow that community.
Beehaw is not fully defederated, they're just blocking instances with lax account creation policies. Weakly secured instances are allowing a lot of bot and spammer accounts. With the explosive growth it's actually a big problem for Lemmy (and the Fediverse). They're going to have to come up with tools and policies to keep this from happening. Otherwise it could wreck the user experience.
If you want access to [email protected], simply sign on to an instance that is not blocked, mine is not (lemm.ee). You can look at instances that are allowed and blocked on any instance by selecting the Instances link bottom of the page.
Then do something about it or get someone you know who has the technical know how. This is a movement that requires effort not just a "oh I don't know it's not that convenient" approach.....
As a total noob, I'm with you there. Hoping I just have more to learn tho