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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No other politician has learned and evolved like President Joe Biden (Dark Brandon FTW) has. He's cool AF

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He didn't do well with the rail strikers but I guess he's trying to redeem himself. But I prefer that over a President who's consistently against labor, like any Republican one would be.

[–] aski3252 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess he's trying to redeem himself

I mean that's one way to put it, but at the end of the day, he isn't some manga anti-hero, he is a politician and politicians want to be elected.

I am pretty sure this is about the UAW's change of attitude that puts immense pressure on Biden, especially that they are withholding their endorsment for Biden until he "earned it". And of course Trump is also trying to suck up to the unions, so Biden has to step up his game.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/17/uaw-auto-strike-joe-biden-union/70884657007/

[–] psycho_driver 7 points 1 year ago

And of course Trump is also trying to suck up to the unions, so Biden has to step up his game.

Hopefully they're smart enough to know that Trump would just endorse whichever side he could grift the most money from once in office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love it. Make the politicians work for our love until they help us lol. Seems to be working with Biden.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some other union member mentioned either in here or another thread that the IBEW is only one of 13 rail unions, and they're one of the most conservative ones, preferring lobbying Democrats over striking or using actual worker power. Their union officials also tried making deals earlier that the rest of their members rejected and didn't like, which they hinted at but seem to be down playing a lot in this statement naturally. That commenter said the Rail Workers United statement, which is a coalition of rank-and-file workers from among all the unions, has been a lot more scathing towards the White House's interference in the strike and negotiations even after they helped get them some sick leave.

Separately, it's not good that we set the precedent that power comes not from workers, but from up on high to be doled out at our rulers' whim. What happens when we get a conservative President next? They'll destroy the strike and we all just collectively shrug? People need to learn that power comes from numbers, a popular mandate, and withholding labor, not from back room deals secretly negotiated by higher up union officials, CEOs, and the President. Letting these actions continue builds relationships, trust, and solidarity among the workers that is important for future labor action.

[–] assassin_aragorn 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There were a lot of external concerns with a strike too. The delays would have left some municipalities without water purification supplies. Delays in coal and gas would mean no electricity or heating in the middle of December

If he broke the strike just to make sure Christmas deliveries were made on time that would be unconscionable. Concerns over power and heating are more understandable.

Really this just shows this sector is so critical to the economy and our lives that it needs to be nationalized, and the workers deserve their demands as a minimum.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They never mentioned any of that stuff. They would always just gesture broadly at the "economy" which hints at Christmas deliveries.

Really this just shows this sector is so critical to the economy and our lives that it needs to be nationalized, and the workers deserve their demands as a minimum.

Exactly.

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 1 year ago

It was certainly a concern that came up in articles and such, I remember city municipality workers talking about how their supplies wouldn't last through delays.

I certainly believe it though that it didn't come up in the politics, which is really unfortunate. Delays in gas and coal and chemicals aren't often thought about, and without considering that, breaking the strike is absolutely unacceptable.

I'm glad to see the public become overwhelming in favor of unions. At least partial nationalization should become more viable.

[–] Agent641 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is good for him but I feel like his secret sevice detail will be stressed to the gills by this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

All presidents should fear upsetting the people, instead of upsetting capital.