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Still somewhat new to fediverse stuff and trying to learn. Could someone explain this? Thanks!

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[–] OverfedRaccoon 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A "true" copy of a community exists on Beehaw. Lemmy.world makes a copy of that community. They sync back and forth.

When they defederate, the copy on lemmy.world still exists, but it no longer syncs back and forth with the "true" one on Beehaw. So it gets fucky because the "true" one on Beehaw lives on. But if you interact with the community on lemmy.world, you're only interacting within the copy - so it's basically a literal echo chamber.

So like, any new posts you see on "Beehaw" (from lemmy.world) are from other lemmy.world users posting to the lemmy.world copy. It's not syncing with Beehaw, so you're only interacting with local lemmy.world people, not everyone in the greater Fediverse.

That's why most Beehaw posts, aside from those made here (locally on lemmy.world), are like 4 days old now.

I hope that makes sense. Also, feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect somewhere.

EDIT: Holy autocorrect, Batman.

EDIT 2: It looks like those Beehaw communities might be syncing with other insurances' copies as well. I truly don't have a greater understanding of the interactions myself. The above is how I've come to understand it as it was explained to me.

[–] mglap 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why doesn't lemmy.world read new posts from beehaw? The local users here wouldn't be able to send comments back to the beehaw version, but we could at least browse the posts, and even leave comments that other lemmy.world users could read.

[–] FlaxPicker 13 points 1 year ago

just not the way it was originally coded i guess. Keep in mind, the beehaw admins intend to refederate with lemmy.world eventually. They are waiting until the moderator tools get a little better and they can handle the outer world. Last i heard, there was only like 4 mods on the whole instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Because beehaw will block sync attempts from lemmy.world. Users can't directly connect to other instances. The instance they're on connects with other instances and fetches data in the background.

[–] abhibeckert 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I know, lemmy.world doesn't read posts from beehaw.

Instead whenever someone posts on beehaw, beehaw is mean to send a copy to lemmy.world. This allows new content to appear (pretty much) instantly across the entire fediverse without servers asking each other "do you have any new stuff?" thousands of times per second.

Beehaw has stopped sending new posts to lemmy.world, and so they're not appearing here anymore. I'd guess lemmy.world still does send posts to beehaw - however that instance is ignoring them.