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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And if Iran and Saudi Arabia get nukes, then Turkey will get nukes. And if Turkey gets nukes, then unless there is an EU army, Greece will want to get nukes.

[–] Astroturfed 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already.... it's like the whole reason everyone pretends they aren't a circus run by a toddler pounding the table to print more money as economic policy.

Ukraine is the only country to every voluntarily disarm their nuclear arsenal. Now invaded by Russia. Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country. I honestly can't blame countries wanting to develope or obtain nuclear weapons anymore....

[–] Bondrewd 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] BackOnMyBS 9 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: South Africa didn't give up nukes based on some moral objection. They did it because the apartheid government was disbanding, and they didn't want people of melanin to have nukes. Racism for the win?

[–] mightyfoolish 2 points 1 year ago

Let's not forget Libya.

That. Was. A. Mistake.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already

Those are US controlled nukes. And the US doesnt have the best relation with Turkey atm. They are there now, gone tomorrow. Turkey cant rely on american nukes. If other regional powers have nukes, they need to have nukes. And if Turkey has nukes, then Greece needs to have nukes for selfprotection.

Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country.

They have the 2nd biggest military in NATO, after the US, an immensely important geographical location and they are a regional power(along with Iran and Saudi Arabia).

[–] Weirdfish 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We will all go together when we go

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a comforting thought that is to know.

EDIT: "Who's next" is more accurate though.

[–] 1847953620 1 points 1 year ago

Until then, I'll be poisoning pigeons in the park

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One nuke is useless if everyone knows you only have one

[–] Sylver 4 points 1 year ago

Not completely. Especially in the case of middle eastern countries, a capital strike would ensure the dissolution of the state.

[–] Spaniard 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Turkey doesn't need nukes because it's part of the strongest defensive alliance in the history of mankind. That's enough deterrent for anyone who isn't in that alliance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NATO's is not going to be part of Turkey's geopolitical schemes. Nukes are needed in order to be on an even footing with the other regional powers(which will also have nukes). Even if Saudi Arabia/Iran never intend to nuke Turkey, they will be at an advantage.

Hard power translates to soft power. And if your regional opponents have nukes and you dont have nukes, you will be at a significant soft power disadvantage.

Btw Turkey is building its first nuclear power plant, with help from Russia. Saudi Arabia also intends to build nuclear power plants soon. Thats the first step to creating a nuclear weapon.