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[โ€“] CliveRosfield 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So who actually owns the server this instance runs on? Doesn't it just mean they do whatever they want? So confused

[โ€“] jawknee530 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are a ton of Lemmy instances that all communicate with each other and each instance is ran on hardware by different owners. So if one instance goes to shit your account will still work on all the other ones.

[โ€“] s38b35M5 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So if one instance goes to shit your account will still work on all the other ones.

My understanding is that (at present anyway) since accounts are not federated, your account on that "gone to shit" instance will be gone. Your content will still be on many federated instances, but not your account. That would be lost.

[โ€“] iamsgod 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is my understanding too. like, I was confused why my account doesn't work for lemmy.my, but then I find out that I still can comment on it from lemmy.world

[โ€“] HollowNotion 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. I love the idea, and I'm liking the lemmy experience so far for the most part, but this has to be communicated to new users more effectively, imo.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, one thing Lemmy needs to solve is account migration. Instead of creating a new account on a new instance you move your existing account from one instance to another. It won't save the account if the instance is already removed, but it at least gives an option to move if you feel like there's a better instance for you.

[โ€“] Boiglenoight 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pros and cons. This is better.

[โ€“] s38b35M5 1 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] CliveRosfield 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah... dope. So it's currently just running through donations I presume. Another dumb question: If an instance owner goes rogue and just nukes it are your posts gone too or is it archived somewhere?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

every post you make that is seen by at least one other instance other than yours, it saved as a copy on that other instance.
That's basically how instances communicate with each other, If you as a lemmy.world user go to lemmy.ml, lemmy.world get's a copy of the content of lemmy.ml. In the same way if you post something direclty on lemmy.world, that post will be included in copys of every other instance viewed lemmy.world after you made that comment.

[โ€“] jawknee530 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe your posts on that one instance will be gone but I'm actually unsure. Still learning about it myself

[โ€“] damipereira 2 points 1 year ago

I think so too, a good feature for the future would be redundancy and third party backups, so people can be held accountable. Or you could back up an instance in your own machine if you want. I thinl this kind of stuff will be developed in time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Technically, anything can be scraped (e.g. Internet Archive), but that doesn't mean it's interactive.

I'd say the volatility of computer data means someone could theoretically nuke it whenever they want, though there may be remnants on other instances.

I'm curious enough to enforce Cunningham's Law: It's not on blockchain, so it's deleted if the instance is deleted.

[โ€“] GalacticRobot 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if a Lemmy instance goes down, all of the communities and comments go down with it? Seems almost worst than having a CEO?

[โ€“] CliveRosfield 9 points 1 year ago

Seems like the saving grace is anyone can either start or move to a different lemmy instance whenever. It's not like someone can just host their own copy of Reddit if spez ever went nuclear.