Phileosopher

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your reasoning touches on a deep philosophical concept: what is "ownership"?

I'd say owning something is easy enough when you can't duplicate it (I can't just copy your car or house to save money). Duplication, however, means the ownership is technically the abstraction of "intellectual property", which worked fine when duplicating cost money and people paid money for it.

However, the very essence of using a computer on a network is simply using copies. You're not reading this as I write it, but a copy your computer downloaded.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think so. FLOSS devs never seem to attract FLOSS designers. I'd love to collab with them, but they all seem to like designing not-FLOSS things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Who said we're in late stage capitalism? If you ask the libertarians, we've been out of any sincere capitalism since WWII.

 

I only partly live under a rock, so I've now heard that the Facebooks is making Threads, and it'll talk to Mastodon.

Any idea how to keep them from taking over? Apparently, you're a weirdo these days if you use Firefox, Brave/Qwant, and trust FLOSS > proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how do people go about defederating? Is it just a matter of making new servers, or does it require anything else?

I'm happy to stand up against The Man, but it seems like once the masses get involved they don't feel personally responsible to preserve what they enjoy. They seem to give general consensus to [Big Tech Company], then [hard-working FLOSS developer] comes in later to fix it.

If I'm going to get "political" here, I almost think people need to be sold more on the importance of self-reliance. One prior historical precedent was around the 1750's about taxation, and that's had a nearly non-trivial impact on society. People intuitively grasp land ownership, so it should translate to data ownership as well.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I may be speaking in defense of something I don't know, but I don't see a direct problem with other apps (e.g., Threads, Twitter if they change up what they're doing) to start talking with the fediverse.

The bigger problem is when they start throwing their weight around. The W3C (and groups like Mozilla) have had many strong battles with Google trying weird stuff because they're the biggest guys in the room (e.g., FLoC).

As long as we can rally behind the loyalist FLOSS geeks, we'll always be alright.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's not entirely true. Plenty of FLOSS software exist that are also run by corporations.

The secret is that corporate FLOSS maintainers are "service providers" and make their living that way, but the code is a public-access creative output that allows others to render that service.

It's a somewhat implicit contract of saying "Live and let live, since I'm technically have more power strictly because I designed the darn thing." Sorta scratches the ego and also allows freedom for everyone else at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The trouble with socialism, though, is that any implementation of it strips away meaning in the process of trying to help people.

Meaning comes from a person feeling responsibility for what they do. That responsibility requires exposure to risk if they don't act.

Almost any policy created to help people without a well-guarded limit will quickly become paternalism and, consequently, strip away meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you define "socialism"? I'm a little lost on how any social media with a hosting provider or moderator can ever be socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Technically, anything can be scraped (e.g. Internet Archive), but that doesn't mean it's interactive.

I'd say the volatility of computer data means someone could theoretically nuke it whenever they want, though there may be remnants on other instances.

I'm curious enough to enforce Cunningham's Law: It's not on blockchain, so it's deleted if the instance is deleted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They might flee into the rest of the world and learn social skills. The horror!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That depends where you stand. CO2 means more flora, as any 5th-grade biology teacher will tell you.

The real place to look for climate change is water movement: rainfall, sea levels, ocean temperature, river levels, humidity, etc.

And, there are redundancies built into the system, such as radiation-consuming and hydrocarbon-consuming bacteria that thrive well and balance out our "destruction".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you get the idea. Things can be always true, but also where we see them wrong. The Sheep in the Field thought experiment shows it clearly.

 

I love the weird one-off internet: those tiny little fan projects made by someone with a true passion and something in their mind that's probably hard to pronounce.

Any fun corners of the internet out there still beyond social media? Or do you build anything yourself?

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