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Her comments do sound like she has "prejudged" him ngl.
So far as I can tell, the quoted statements were made in the context of trying or sentencing people who physically entered the Capitol on Jan 6, and/or acted with overt violence towards law enforcement. The first quote doesn't reference a defendant, I will need to dig on that one.
The second, however, was during sentencing for one Robert Palmer, "who was sentenced to more than five years in prison for using a wooden plank and a fire extinguisher to attack police."
That second quote recognizes that Palmer, who was already convicted, did not act solely because of his own will, nor did he act as part of a "headless" mob. He, and all the rest of the people who marched on and then used violence to invade the Capitol building didn't just wake up the morning of Jan 6 and decide that that was going to be their outing for the day.
This violent insurrection was fomented by others. That is simply undeniable. And, at the December 2021 date the Chutkan's statement was made, it was true that "The people who exhorted [Palmer] and encouraged [him] and rallied [him] to go and take action and to fight have not been charged."
The subtext to that statement is that "the people who exhorted" should be charged. Not convicted, not lynched, not prejudged - charged, taken to court, before a jury of their peers, and weighed on the scales of justice.
The first quote comes from the October 2022 sentencing of Chistine Priola. Priola received a 15 month sentence. She pled guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, having spent thirty minutes inside the Capitol building.
A more complete quote from that hearing is:
Chutkan is again recognizing the facts of the matter. The people who invaded the Capitol on Jan 6 were there for Trump - whether he directed their specific actions or not (if you watch him speaking at the Ellipse, you can make your own judgment about that). Trump was President of the United States on that day. His complete failure for several hours to take any action whatsoever, as President, to stop the insurrectionists who were acting for him stands in stark and dire contrast to his, in October 2022, having seen no consequence for that inaction. This is with disregard to whether you think he's responsible for actively directing people to insurrection before it began.
My previous comment stands.