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Not quite. The truth is, there is no universally recognized grades of leather. But when bragging about quality, genuine leather is the lowest bar they can go (other than bonded leather, which isn’t fully leather but just a veneer over fabric.
Full grain or top grain is generally what you want.
https://lifehacker.com/what-genuine-leather-really-means-1850309049
Also, some are concerned about the use of an animal product. The vast majority of leather is a byproduct of the beef industry. It is skin that would otherwise go to waste. And it is also far more environmentally friendly a material than many alternatives, which are often made of plastics.
Yeah, honestly you should buy leather products based on brands than on description of "genuine" leather.
And agree, real leather is a much better alternative to the ridiculous amount of micro-plastic synthetic leather generates, especially since it'll last you decades if you maintain it well.
Leather made from animal flesh is far worse for the planet than pleather, but if you're really worried, you could just forgo both
https://twitter.com/jan_dutkiewicz/status/1645867376381169665?t=w7mjq-VuWZB6TAudzs7A9g&s=19
I think this is a good point and well sourced; however, it doesn’t take into account the longevity of the product, which is also important. Best practice is probably to thrift existing leather products since we already have so much material in circulation.
It's the industry recapturing some of its costs by reducing waste. That's still supporting the industry.
We applauded Native Americans for using every part of the animal, yet when we do it today somehow it’s a bad thing.
The skins are there rather you like the industry or not. Better to use them than throw them in a landfill.
They're not a byproduct. Their sale directly supports the deforestation of the Amazon
https://twitter.com/matthewhayek/status/1646145797698756610?t=AL_msrN0woNtB7gqF_pv7A&s=19
It’s a byproduct, an activist tweeter notwithstanding. Brazil is the world’s largest exporter of beef. (Source: https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2019/july/brazil-once-again-becomes-the-world-s-largest-beef-exporter/ )
Just because America has more of a need for Brazilian leather than their beef does not mean it isn’t a byproduct.
A byproduct is defined as “something produced in a usually industrial or biological process in addition to the principal product.” The principle product is beef.
Also, the claim that leather isn’t biodegradable is misleading at best. Leather still breaks down, and it does do far faster than plastic alternatives and without shedding microplastics. https://ecocult.com/leather-may-be-natural-but-is-it-biodegradable/
By your logic, why don't we flay off the skins of all dead people and wear those too? They're just going to waste!
I'm opposed to the animal killing industry and all of its various outgrowths. The less money that can be made from it, the less money will be invested into the industry in the first place. If the skins end up in a landfill, that's lost revenue that makes the industry suffer. Putting money in the pockets of these businesses just lets them reinvest. Stop trying to portray your choice to wear skin as somehow the more ethical one and preach from some imaginary moral high ground.
Why not indeed! Its a travesty that Im not allowed to make a wallet out of grandpa’s dead ass!
Tan me hide when I'm dead, Fred
Tan me hide when I'm dead
So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde
And that's it hangin' on the shed!
Altogether now!
(actually, I unironically think human remains should be reused instead of preserved in a box lol)
Ah Rolf Harris. Haven't seen him on TV for years. I wonder why.
A short time later.
Oh.
It really is like I never left Reddit
I'd genuinely prefer if my family turned my remains into a fucking backpack instead of paying thousands of dollars to put them on a cushioned box in the ground
Because human skin makes really shitty quality leather. It's not nearly thick enough.
Human bodies aren't even fit for composting, given the amount of pharmaceuticals and forever chemicals most have in their bodies by the time they die.
Lemmy really capture og Reddit feeling, even have this kind of redditor
gotta love all the people throwing shade at you but never showing any actual counterargument. Average carnist behaviour, gotta keep the cognitive dissonance at bay.
Don't you see? By not draping ourselves in the flesh of dead animals we're actually being disrespectful of their sacrifices!!! You don't want animals to end up in landfills, do you?
Bleh. There's nothing worse than these preachy types who try to assuage their guilt by presenting their practices as ethical. At least carnists that don't care about animals are honest with themselves
agreed. do you know of any active vegan community on lemmy? the only ones i have found seem completely dead or average one post a week
Nope. I've mostly accepted that the only way some communities will ever exist is if someone becomes a dedicated poster and jumps off the cliff every day to keep them active, at least until they can attract their own userbase.
Relax, no need to name-call. Otherwise, I'll be forced to make a video of me badly singing "Imagine", and nobody wants to hear that.
Hahahahahahahahaha did you just call him a bloodmouth? Are you a fuckin villager in the 1600s fuckin blood mouth
That's what carnists are! They eat things that bleed. Hence, bloodmouth.
Corpse sucker is also fun.
Do we get to call vegans copse suckers then? 🤔
Well I do love sucking wood vOv