like, it's caffeine and water and brown, who cares. i drink diet soda so it's no calories, no sugar. versus the stereotype starbucks order, why is soda so demonized

the whole sort of basically woo stuff about oh there's antioxidants there which give you a 3% lower risk of skin cancer after the age of 65 like come on that doesn't count

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[–] Animated_beans 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coffee is healthier than soda if you take your coffee black. Black coffee is basically just water. Soda will have either sugar or artificial sweeteners in additional to sodium and other additives that make it a less healthy option.

Coffee with milk would still be better for you than soda, but you've got a good point about coffee with sweeteners essentially being just as bad as soda. Maybe the reason people treat coffee differently is because there is a healthy way to drink it and they incorrectly extrapolate that fact to any type of coffee (no, your coffee with eight sugars is not healthier than a can of Coke). Add in the fact that coffee is an acquired taste and now you've got one drink that only adults tend to drink (coffee) and one drink that kids love (soda) and people incorrectly assume that coffee is a more "grown up" thing to drink.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a coffee with 8 sugars is still WAY less sugar than a soda.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes and diet soda isn't a perfect alternative. We're still learning about the long term effects of artificial sweeteners. It's a headache trying to navigate the options.

There are seltzer waters that have caffeine. I would guess those are comparable to black coffee in terms of healthiness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not saying you're totally wrong to be suspicious but aspartame is the most scientifically examined substance in the history of the world, and so far its only damaging if you consume it undiluted in large quantities, which is also true for like vinegar or alcohol etc.

it would be equally true to suggest we don't know the long term effects of exposure to mobile phones, even though they seem perfectly safe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure been studied but anything with this much profits on the line is bound to be massively influenced by it, and the fact that its gotten to even possibly a carcinogen is enough of a sign to me.

Andsalso 'most studied' what? Wheres that number even from

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

it's a quote from the FDA's website.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Absolutely true. Aspartame is generally regarded as safe under 40mg/kg and still researching long term effects doesn't mean it's dangerous, just that there may be more to discover. To be fair, science is constantly evolving and new discoveries are being made every day for... well, everything. Still, if you want to find the "healthiest" way to get your daily caffeine, there are options out there with minimal additives. Black coffee, tea, seltzers, even pills.