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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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    One officer is seen standing at her door and repeatedly telling her to "get out of the car".
    "For what?" she responds twice, adding: "I'm not going to do that."
    One officer seen in front of the car has his left hand on the hood, his gun drawn in the other hand.
    "Are you going to shoot me?" she says moments before a single shot is fired and the officer quickly moves out of the car's path.

    The cop who killed her was in no danger, and has time to casually stroll out of the way of the vehicle.

    What he doesn't have is a name or a face — as often happens, the police haven't been named, and their faces have been blurred in the video.

    Why?

If they weren't cops — if they were just a pair of random dudes killing a black pregnant woman, and there was video footage — would their names remain secret, their faces blurred?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She was shoplifting. These fuckers are murderers, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago

She was suspected of shoplifting. We have due process for a reason.

Fuck cops.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ALLEGEDLY shoplifting! The store worker could have been confused and it could be as simple as that, we don't even know if she did the thing

[–] LemmyWinks666 17 points 1 year ago

This is one of the reasons I refuse to shop at my local Meijer stores. Their fucking registers are quick to accuse you of stealing something, and you're treated as guilty by the employees even if you try to prove that the machine is wrong.

I know more than one person who has had this experience, chiefly my sister who already has severe social anxiety. She won't step foot there again.

One has been banned since the first time she went because the employees confused her with someone that actually shoplifted. They called in the cops, who told her should be trespassed if she came back.

Fuck these systems.