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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by folak to c/android
 

Hi, I'm wondering myself is root useful or not ? In which case it can be useful ? And Root with magisk is unsecure ?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's like saying being able to turn left is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your car.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, it's like saying swapping out the fuel delivery system and ecu fuel mapping with a custom tunable system and Map is one of the most dangerous things you can do to your car; which it is if not done by a professional or someone with significant experience/understanding.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, it's like saying having admin permissions is one of the most dangerous things you can do on your home computer. Only an idiot would think that.

[–] milady 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, it is, if you don't have admin you can't install root-level malware directly (still can if the malware uses some bug to gain privilege). But I still fully agree with your point, I just wanted to say that technically, having root is dangerous in the sense that you can do anything. Most end users have no reason to modify system files etc. Since they only use a web browser and word.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Notably, there is a difference between admin and root.

One has checks, the other can run scripts, change permissions, move files, delete files, hide malware, install rootkits, install ransomware, exfiltrate data, alter your OS, change hardware voltages, etc all without so much as a prompt.

It doesn't matter if you're a beginner or a seasoned veteran with handling root, it can cause some heavy damage to your system when you or another application mishandle it.

Rule of thumb is to remain in user mode for the entirety of your sessions. Only use admin rights when you need to make a system change. Most well-designed applications should not need to be run as admin, and definitely not root.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is this proselytization adding, here?

[–] 9tr6gyp3 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its called the principle of least privilege, or principle of minimal privilege, or principle of least authority.

Its a philosophy learned by anyone who is serious about information assurance. Its a very basic, yet fundamental security concept.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got it. I thought it wasn't relevant to this context, and I was right.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 1 points 1 year ago

This is relevant to giving apps "root access". How is that not relevant?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol you're not getting those admin permissions by flipping a simple switch. Root access is far more involved than simple admin permissions so please try again.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can't be much more complicated than basic reading comprehension, but that's clearly beyond you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of insults. Clearly you're a person of the people, you must work wonders when changing minds. 🤯

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The thing about "knowing just enough to be dangerous" is typically the person doesn't realize that's all they know.